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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Bugger ...but I’ll gladly keep on donating to stop TTR pillaging the oceans off Taranaki
    Its the Chatham rise. Taranaki is safe on this one
    https://www.sbma.gov.ck/news-3/cook-...hatham-rise-nz

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Bugger ...but I’ll gladly keep on donating to stop TTR pillaging the oceans off Taranaki
    Rather interesting to read the comments from Minister David Parker today where he says balancing the ill effects of our dairy industry on the environment with the obvious economic benefits to the country , will be a very challenging balancing act indeed.
    He then goes on to say we have more than enough cows now and the country needs to develop some new and significant industries to fill the gap.
    TTR have just what he's looking for, and he is in the position to influence the outcome.

    TTR will not be harmful to oceans, certainly not nearly as harmful as the dairy industry is to the water ways now. Its rather ironic that there exist some Maori Corporations operating proudly in the dairy industry but we never hear a bad word about that from the Hawera Maori Party MP Deborah Packer who seems to have nightmares on a regular basis whenever TTR is mentioned.

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    There is a lot of work going into reducing the emissions of dairy herd without reducing production. It is entirely possible that emissions from the herd will be down 70% 10 years. In contrast, what TTR want to do is use unproven technology to produce an uncertain amount of a commodity, in an environment in which they have no experience. All the while saying that the environment won't suffer any long term damage. There is no comparison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KJMLimited View Post
    There is a lot of work going into reducing the emissions of dairy herd without reducing production. It is entirely possible that emissions from the herd will be down 70% 10 years. In contrast, what TTR want to do is use unproven technology to produce an uncertain amount of a commodity, in an environment in which they have no experience. All the while saying that the environment won't suffer any long term damage. There is no comparison.
    "Entirely possible..."... prove it.
    TTR are merely DREDGING the sea floor....an activity that goes on every day in NZ and around the world. Especially in harbors close to land.

    The technology actually is proven...its called magnetics. You may not know it but Fe is easy to extract from its source...in this case sand...without chemicals. Unlike milk production which needs mountains of chemicals. That's called fertilizer. You need to clear your mind ; at the moment its brainwashed. Tree hugger .

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    'Merely dredging the sea floor'. Good one.
    Ps look up Asparagopsis and you'll see what I mean about the potential for emission reduction in the dairy herd.

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    Stirring up a bit of muck on the ocean floor could have a beneficial effect on climate change. ie fertilize the little buggers and they will utilize more CO2. Takes it out of the atmosphere, ultimately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KJMLimited View Post
    'Merely dredging the sea floor'. Good one.
    Ps look up Asparagopsis and you'll see what I mean about the potential for emission reduction in the dairy herd.
    Well good luck with that. Long long way to go and it doesn't address the harm from nitrogen runoffs into water courses or leaching . Even Goblin Greta will be a wee bit cynical.

    We need less cows and like the planet needs birth control.

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    Isn't dredging the seafloor what the fishing industry does, calling it trawling, over a hugely greater area and no one says anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nor View Post
    Isn't dredging the seafloor what the fishing industry does, calling it trawling, over a hugely greater area and no one says anything.
    Yes exactly. The fish industry unbelievably has dispensations galore when it come to throwing muck overboard. Why else do people like Talleys pay people like Shane Jones thousands to smooze politicians and bureaucrats to enrich themselves.?

    Talleys were one of the parties objecting to TTRs plans. Kind of pathetic really. A polluter and a scavenger (Talleys) trying to stop an industry that will produce a commodity that they (Fishers) need to operate. VIZ Steel to make their damn boats.

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    20-thousand square metres sounds a lot,but that is 2 hectares.

    But still sounds iffy?

    https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/BU24...+15+March+2024

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