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    Hello guys,

    Just stumbled across this forum after recently moving to New Zealand. Delighted to have somewhere to discuss stocks! As you might have guessed from the name, I'm a old school value investor at heart (although its hard to find value at the minute!) and i've started to get very interested in small cap stocks lately. Surprised by the amount of small companies that are public in NZ.

    Had a few questions,

    Is there any discount brokers with no account charges/maintenance fees?

    What is the capital gains tax on profits situation here?

    Give me some value NZ stocks to research

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Value Hunter View Post
    Hello guys,

    Just stumbled across this forum after recently moving to New Zealand. Delighted to have somewhere to discuss stocks! As you might have guessed from the name, I'm a old school value investor at heart (although its hard to find value at the minute!) and i've started to get very interested in small cap stocks lately. Surprised by the amount of small companies that are public in NZ.

    Had a few questions,

    Is there any discount brokers with no account charges/maintenance fees?

    What is the capital gains tax on profits situation here?

    Give me some value NZ stocks to research

    Cheers
    Brokers: ASB Securities, Direct Broking & ANZ Share & Bond Trading. (The latter two are both owned by ANZ and are essentially the same thing I believe)

    Capital Gains Tax: You have just asked the most complex tax question in New Zealand. The answer is No there is no Capital Gains Tax here.
    But
    You are taxed on the profits (less losses) from buying and selling shares (or anything else) if you intent is to buy and sell for a (capital) profit.
    If you buy shares with the intent of deriving an income from them (i.e. dividends) and later sell then you are not taxed on the capital profits (less losses).

    So now you have lots of questions about intent and the answer is it depends.

    Value stocks? There are only 171 shares on the NZX so you run a quick eye over most of them. But I do like HNZ & SUM at the moment.

    Best Wishes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Value Hunter View Post
    Give me some value NZ stocks to research
    https://www.nzx.com/markets/NZSX/securities

    There is a list of 149 of the stocks on the NZX.

    If you have a few hours free on the weekend you should be able to filter out the rubbish and be left with no more than 10 companies I'd say. That's how I created my watchlist.

    I'm with ASB Securities (a broking business of ASB Bank) which is a discount broker and it provides research reports through Morning Star.

    I only have six companies on my watchlist on the NZX Market:

    ANZ- ANZ Banking Group (banking services)
    FRE- Freightways (courier transport & data storage)
    MFT- Mainfreight (worldwide logistics & transport)
    POT- Port of Tauranga (shipping port & other services)
    RYM- Ryman Healthcare (retirement homes)
    SUM- Summerset Group (retirement homes)

    I prefer to trade on the ASX (Australian market) as I find the market has a broader range of good companies selling at discounts more often. All New Zealand brokers should allow you to trade both the New Zealand and Australian markets pretty easily.
    Last edited by born2invest; 04-12-2013 at 02:21 PM.

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    Born do you buy asx shares through asb securities?

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    Quote Originally Posted by born2invest View Post
    https://www.nzx.com/markets/NZSX/securities

    There is a list of 149 of the stocks on the NZX.

    If you have a few hours free on the weekend you should be able to filter out the rubbish and be left with no more than 10 companies I'd say. That's how I created my watchlist.

    I'm with ASB Securities (a broking business of ASB Bank) which is a discount broker and it provides research reports through Morning Star.

    I only have six companies on my watchlist on the NZX Market:

    ANZ- ANZ Banking Group (banking services)
    FRE- Freightways (courier transport & data storage)
    MFT- Mainfreight (worldwide logistics & transport)
    POT- Port of Tauranga (shipping port & other services)
    RYM- Ryman Healthcare (retirement homes)
    SUM- Summerset Group (retirement homes)

    I prefer to trade on the ASX (Australian market) as I find the market has a broader range of good companies selling at discounts more often. All New Zealand brokers should allow you to trade both the New Zealand and Australian markets pretty easily.
    Have any ASX co's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf View Post
    Born do you buy asx shares through asb securities?
    Yes I buy them online.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gv1 View Post
    Have any ASX co's.
    Here is the full list of the companies on the ASX

    http://www.asx.com.au/asx/research/listedCompanies.do

    I'm assuming you want my current watchlist also so these are below. I add/remove various ones occasionally out of interest to read their annual reports and any updates but the ones below are my constant ones that I've kept on my watchlist

    CCP- Credit Corp Group (debt collection)
    DLX- Dulux (paints, home improvement)
    NHF- NIB Holdings (health insurance)
    OFX- Oz Forex (Foreign Exchange)
    RHC- Ramsay Healthcare (hospitals)
    RWH- Royal Wolf Holdings (container sales/rental)
    SNL- Supply Network Limited (truck/bus parts)
    VRT- Virtus Health (IVF treatments)

    I would suggest reading Martin Roths "top stocks 2013/2014" books as he puts together a decent list of 100 stocks each year on the ASX.

    Other companies I've looked into in the past on the top of my head:

    1300 Smiles
    Austbrokers
    Greencross
    Steadfast
    Coca Cola Amatil
    Thorn Group
    Tox Free Solutions
    McMillan Shakespeare
    Invocare
    G8 Education
    Flexigroup
    Blackmores
    Car Sales
    REA Group
    Seek
    Cochlear
    Freedom Foods
    Flight Centre
    Navitas
    Slater & Gordon
    The Reject Shop
    Woolworths

    The only company of these I've ever owned previously were Coca Cola Amatil which I kept for a year or so before selling. All the others just had something I wasn't quite happy with. I currently own Supply Network Limited and Credit Corp Group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by born2invest View Post
    Here is the full list of the companies on the ASX

    http://www.asx.com.au/asx/research/listedCompanies.do

    I'm assuming you want my current watchlist also so these are below. I add/remove various ones occasionally out of interest to read their annual reports and any updates but the ones below are my constant ones that I've kept on my watchlist

    CCP- Credit Corp Group (debt collection)
    DLX- Dulux (paints, home improvement)
    NHF- NIB Holdings (health insurance)
    OFX- Oz Forex (Foreign Exchange)
    RHC- Ramsay Healthcare (hospitals)
    RWH- Royal Wolf Holdings (container sales/rental)
    SNL- Supply Network Limited (truck/bus parts)
    VRT- Virtus Health (IVF treatments)

    I would suggest reading Martin Roths "top stocks 2013/2014" books as he puts together a decent list of 100 stocks each year on the ASX.

    Other companies I've looked into in the past on the top of my head:

    1300 Smiles
    Austbrokers
    Greencross
    Steadfast
    Coca Cola Amatil
    Thorn Group
    Tox Free Solutions
    McMillan Shakespeare
    Invocare
    G8 Education
    Flexigroup
    Blackmores
    Car Sales
    REA Group
    Seek
    Cochlear
    Freedom Foods
    Flight Centre
    Navitas
    Slater & Gordon
    The Reject Shop
    Woolworths

    The only company of these I've ever owned previously were Coca Cola Amatil which I kept for a year or so before selling. All the others just had something I wasn't quite happy with. I currently own Supply Network Limited and Credit Corp Group.
    Thanks mate

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    Thanks for all the replies lads. With the discount broker from asb, is their maintenance/inactivity fees?

    I'll get started by researching the list of stocks from born2invest from both the nz and oz markets

    What about buying US or Euro stocks? Do the fees go up massively?

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    Hi and welcome to ST, Value Hunter.

    https://www.asbsecurities.co.nz/

    Have a cruise around the site, rates/fees are disclosed under the Home tab drop down, 'Getting Started' tab, along with plenty of other info.

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