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    Default Playing the Quarterly Changes to the NASDAQ Golden Dragon China Index Game

    Hi ,

    today my favorite Stock, CGA PE of 2, far beneath net book value, has an announcement of being added in these Index:
    NASDAQ Golden Dragon China Index
    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/quarte...130500272.html

    but now look what had happens to the candidates 2 quarters ago:

    http://online.wsj.com/article/PR-CO-...1-904386.html#


    We CGA Investors have seen a lot of good news over the last months. CGA has was rewarded as :

    China Green Agriculture Listed as Asia's 200 Best Under A Billion by Forbes Asia
    China Green Agriculture Inc. Announced that its Subsidiary Received Grade A Rating from Subsidiary's Tax Agency

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    Default Learning from history

    All candidates that were added 2 Quarter ago to the index have done well. Bita has tripled to a pike of 35 and
    Jaso has doubled also HGSH. If we conside that CGA has a P/E of 2, ...
    Please help me to understand CGA.




    Added to Golden Dragon Index on Mar 18th.
    Code 13.3.13 19.3.2013 16.12.13 Peak P/E (KGV) 52 weeks
    BITA 8,97 29434 28.22 35,04 35 6,14-35,04
    CBPO 25,47 28,93 29,83 31,15 16 13,07-31,15
    HGSH 5,56 6,97 5,95 12,94 18 2,78-12,94
    JASO 4,55 4,38 8,45 12,80 negative 3,37-12,80
    LDK 1,39 1,27 1,36 2,32 negative 0,93-2,32
    MY 1,36 1,42 2,05 3,52 negative 1,13-3,52
    Removed from Index on Mar 18th.
    ACH 10,15 9,93 8,62 13,29 negative 7,25-13,29
    CO 2,73 2,87 3,98 4,6 17 2,54-4,6
    KNDI 3,89 3,74 8,02 9,20 negative 3,37-9,20
    elong 15,55 14,70 18,20 23,81 negative 12,69-23,81
    SCR 9,03 8,95 9,56 9,56 7,7 7,25-9,77
    Removed because of Merger on Mar 18th.
    ADY negative 7,4$
    FMCN 10 5,5$
    Added to Golden Dragon Index on Dec 23th.
    16.12 open 23.12
    CGA 3,52 2,3
    BONA 5.62 negative
    CNIT 6,49 negative
    CREG 3,92 17
    CXDC 4,88 3,26
    DL 20 48,7
    JST 6.5 6,6
    KGJI 1,67 3,79
    elong 18 negative
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    Default 3 Top performers

    Hi ,
    i made some research for the 9 new candidates that will be added to the Index on december 23.th
    My favorites are CGA, CXDC and JST.

    Added to Golden Dragon Index on Mar 18th.
    Code 13.3.13 19.3.2013 16.12.13 Peak P/E (KGV) 52 weeks
    BITA 8,97 29434 28.22 35,04 35 6,14-35,04
    CBPO 25,47 28,93 29,83 31,15 16 13,07-31,15
    HGSH 5,56 6,97 5,95 12,94 18 2,78-12,94
    JASO 4,55 4,38 8,45 12,80 negative 3,37-12,80
    LDK 1,39 1,27 1,36 2,32 negative 0,93-2,32
    MY 1,36 1,42 2,05 3,52 negative 1,13-3,52
    Added to Golden Dragon Index on Jul 24.th
    14.6 24.6 17.12 P/E (KGV)
    BKMU 5,71 5,81 6.83 7,14 31 4,05-7,14
    BPOP 29,10 28,78 28 34 5,6 27,73-28.34
    CBF 17.94 18,61 22,47 23,73 38 22,11-22.53
    CHFN 10 9.95 10,83 11,82 36 8-11,82
    FDEF 23,59 22,17 25,52 28,46 11,55 17,24-28,46
    FLIC 23,59 22,17 25,52 28,46 11,55 17-28,46
    HTBI 16,53 15,88 16 17 28,5 12,9-17
    LBAI 10 9,9 11,95 12,68 16 9,02-12,68
    NFBK 11,73 11,72 12,81 13,15 40 10,67-13,15
    OCFC 14,57 14,45 17,72 18,88 16 12,57-18,88
    Added to Golden Dragon Index on Dec 23th.
    CGA BONA CNIT CREG CXDC DL JST KGJI elong
    P/E (TTM) 2,33 negative negative 28,42 4,33 82 9,21 3,96 na
    Price to Bookvalue (MRQ) 0,38 1,78 2,04 1,49 0,82 12,38 0,59 0,57 2,08
    Price to tabgible Bookvalue (MRQ) 0,45 21 5,05 1,8 0,64 14,92 0,69 0,57 2,19
    EPS(MRQ) vs Qtr 1 Yr ago 23,61 252 na 153 -11,03 97 84,3 10,54 -575
    EPS -5Yr. Growth Rate 24,95 na na -6,26 -36 6 -3,65 na na
    Margen
    Gross Margin (TTM) 36,6 35,8 20,75 26,2 20,37 53 33 4,4 68
    Operating Margin (TTM) 25,54 -1,85 -124 65 ? 15,19 16 6,74 3,85 -14
    Net Profit Margin (TTM) 20,64 -2,02 -130 24,2 11,03 13,4 6,44 2,59 -10,62

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    Default Beating the Index

    I beated the Index at factor 5, so far, within 3 Weeks. And the Golden Dragon Index has a good performance! 2013 up 55%.

    If you have concentrated on the 4 cheapest stocks (P/E) basis) you had won in average 11% in within 3 weeks !
    There is still room for improvement if you can agree that a stock below P/E of 5 is cheap.

    Added to Golden Dragon Index on Dec 23th.
    16.12.2013 6.1.2014 Increase % Price to Book (mrq)
    CGA 3,52 3,82 8,5 2,3
    BONA 5.62 6,33 12 negative
    CNIT 6,49 6,96 7,2 negative
    CREG 3,92 3,36 -14 17
    CXDC 4,88 5,00 2,4 3,26
    DL 20 17,11 -14 48,7
    JST 6.5 8,34 28 6,6
    KGJI 1,67 1,78 6,5 3,79
    elong 18 19,65 9 negative
    HXC Index Nasdaq Golden Dragon 6894 7011 117 1,016

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    Hi Agrainvestor.
    I've noticed that no-one has replied to your thread yet.
    It may seem like you are talking to yourself but rest assured I guarantee you have at one least reader out of the 930 views that finds your thread very worthwhile and interesting ..
    Thanks for the postings to date
    Hoop

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    Default monolog

    Thank you so much. I am used to talking to myself. Do you have an idea how i can attract agrar specialist that have knowledge about the fertilizer market ? I beleave CGA is a livetime opportunity.
    As i am still learning all these dependencies in fertilizers and agriculture, there is a problem with my english skill. Writing and reading is ok, but speaking. It is very difficult for me, as a non native to understand
    a chinese CFO who is talking english.
    CGA:
    http://www.sharetrader.co.nz/showthr...stock-on-earth

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    Hello Agrarinvestor it looks like you are following Agri sector. Can we expect fertilizer business to improve? At the moment if I am correct Fertilizer companies are facing an uncertain environment due to lower prices for potash and other ingredients. We can reasonably expect fertilizer business to improve in the long run. Am I right?
    Last edited by Valuegrowth; 12-02-2014 at 10:48 PM. Reason: To adjust a sentence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MARKETWINNER View Post
    Hello Agrarinvestor it looks like you are following Agri sector. Can we expect fertilizer business to improve? At the moment if I am correct Fertilizer companies are facing an uncertain environment due to lower prices for potash and other ingredients. We can reasonably expect fertilizer business to improve in the long run. Am I right?
    Hi Marketwinner,
    experts are thinking that the potash market will recover at the end of 2014. Market Realist is always a good source for invormation:
    http://marketrealist.com/2013/11/mos...very-end-2014/

    I am looking at least once a week at sunsirs, for checking the development of prices for fertilizer and products like Gas and Coal what you need during the process of manufacturing. On the right side you find other chemicals and fertilizers:
    http://www.sunsirs.com/uk/prodetail-759.html

    In my opinion is China the region that will produce future fertilizer giants. China is the largest market. Theire fertilizer players are undervalued and were targets of short selling. But they are difficult to predict.
    My favorite play is CGA, they have just started an expensive marketing and growth strategie and sacfrificed a lot of cash for that. CFO has sold 420k shares. I have no idea, why. Maybe he is on the leave, or building a villa, i don't know. As i said, it is all difficult to predict. But i have learned, if something is difficult it can be a huge reward if you solved the mystery.

    http://www.cgagri.com/IR/cgagri/CHINAGREENAGRICULTUREINC.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agrarinvestor View Post
    Hi Marketwinner,
    experts are thinking that the potash market will recover at the end of 2014. Market Realist is always a good source for invormation:
    http://marketrealist.com/2013/11/mos...very-end-2014/

    I am looking at least once a week at sunsirs, for checking the development of prices for fertilizer and products like Gas and Coal what you need during the process of manufacturing. On the right side you find other chemicals and fertilizers:
    http://www.sunsirs.com/uk/prodetail-759.html

    In my opinion is China the region that will produce future fertilizer giants. China is the largest market. Theire fertilizer players are undervalued and were targets of short selling. But they are difficult to predict.
    My favorite play is CGA, they have just started an expensive marketing and growth strategie and sacfrificed a lot of cash for that. CFO has sold 420k shares. I have no idea, why. Maybe he is on the leave, or building a villa, i don't know. As i said, it is all difficult to predict. But i have learned, if something is difficult it can be a huge reward if you solved the mystery.

    http://www.cgagri.com/IR/cgagri/CHINAGREENAGRICULTUREINC.pdf
    Thank you for the links. Market, sector, stock, commodity or currencies never stay in the same place. Fertilizer too could act according to their industry cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MARKETWINNER View Post
    Thank you for the links. Market, sector, stock, commodity or currencies never stay in the same place. Fertilizer too could act according to their industry cycle.
    Market, sector, stock, commodity or currencies never stay in the same place

    That is exactly my recommendation. I have all my money in Germany, live insurrance policies, company pension, pension from the government, my house, most of my savings is in Euro. And the Euro is as sick as the US Dollar.

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