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[TeslaGod]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-58277473

China definitely needs to add to its population to keep up it's low paid workforce serving the western world as well as servicing an aging population.

Also to keep there economy growing

However

Once Tesla have mass produced these humanoids
the outsourced cheap labour will return to the wealthy western countries leaving cheap Asian labour to eventually evaporate.

Tesla could end Chinas plans of world domination.

I see a prototype in the next 12 to 24 months and mass production beginning in 5 years.

This all plays out over the decade.

I'm Overweight TSLA

[JBmurc]

China definitely needs to add to its population to keep up it's low paid workforce serving the western world as well as servicing an aging population.

Also to keep there economy growing

However

Once Tesla have mass produced these humanoids
the outsourced cheap labour will return to the wealthy western countries leaving cheap Asian labour to eventually evaporate.

Tesla could end Chinas plans of world domination.

I see a prototype in the next 12 to 24 months and mass production beginning in 5 years.

This all plays out over the decade.

I'm Overweight TSLA

Will be interesting how much these humanoids will cost to build and maintain ... yet another demand on resources ...

[TeslaGod]

Will be interesting how much these humanoids will cost to build and maintain ... yet another demand on resources ...

I watched A.I day, they are developing technology and batteries no one can dream of, the other ev makers don't stand a chance.

A Tesla ev rarely needs maintenance, so most likely these Tesla bots will either.

The great thing is Elon said he was willing to licence out this technology to other companies.

That's game over,there is no Android vs Apple.

Just Tesla.

[TeslaGod]

Tesla need this because the Car business will sink them...

Atleast I invest in something that actually exists.

[TeslaGod]

I doubt this technology will be developed for developing nations .

With high scale production these like all technology will eventually come down in price.

The Tesla bots will be far more productive than a human manual labourer from Western society.

They are likely to work 24 hours a day 7 days a week 365 days of the year with no union members.

This will drive down wage inflation pushing interest rates to negative world wide.

Universal basic income will become a must moving forward.(no need for me I own the company)

I wonder why David Chaston from interest.co.nz didn't once mention Tesla in this clip?

Oh that's right Tesla don't pay for advertising in mainstream media.

https://youtu.be/9o9dqn4PS60

[JBmurc]

I watched A.I day, they are developing technology and batteries no one can dream of, the other ev makers don't stand a chance.

A Tesla ev rarely needs maintenance, so most likely these Tesla bots will either.

The great thing is Elon said he was willing to licence out this technology to other companies.

That's game over,there is no Android vs Apple.

Just Tesla.

Yes ....I presently reading the book "Capital" on the history and demands India has centred around "Delhi" in the north....

around 17-20mill people try entering the workforce per year in India ... add in China ... thats a massive amount of people looking for work just in two major populations ... if the future is A.I taking away jobs from the present workforce ??

going be some major famines, civil unrest

[TeslaGod]

Yes ....I presently reading the book "Capital" on the history and demands India has centred around "Delhi" in the north....

around 17-20mill people try entering the workforce per year in India ... add in China ... thats a massive amount of people looking for work just in two major populations ... if the future is A.I taking away jobs from the present workforce ??

going be some major famines, civil unrest

I wouldn't be investing capital into developing nations ,it sounds like Tesla bots will be able to do jobs most humans can do.

Thankfully we live in a developed wealthy nation

I guess our world class farmers won't need to import low paid labour in the next 10 years.

[TeslaGod]

Tesla is becoming more profitable by the day as free cashflow boom's higher after Capex

Tesla running out of debt fast !

Can't say the same for dying ICE maker's.

Financial year 2021 Tesla 2h free cash flow looking at 3billion.

Forecast financial year 2022 free cash flow 11Billion

No brainer , Tesla will hit investment grade first half 2022 if not earlier.

Still Overweight Tesla

Price target 1000 to 1100 6 to 12 months.

3k to 4k PT in 48 to 60 months.

[Joshuatree]

What about all the EV comp coming.Tesla was way ahead of the pack.The pack is increasing hugely and making big gains. You can order a Ford F150 EV ute for re US$ 40,000 , 300 mile range.



few key F-150 Lightning specs:

• The 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning is a five-passenger SuperCrew cab with a 5.5-foot bed. These are the same dimensions as its conventional counterpart, meaning common accessories and equipment will work and fit just the same.
• Maximum payload of 2,000 pounds, of which 400 pounds can go in the frunk where the engine used to be.
• It can tow up to 10,000 pounds.
• With extended battery: 563 horsepower, 775 lb-ft of torque, and a driving range of about 300 miles on a single charge.
• With standard battery: 426 hp, 775 lb-ft, and a range of about 230 miles.
• Front and rear motors provide standard all-wheel drive, and skidplates protect the underbody while off-roading.
• It retains the full-size spare tire in the back.

Just as sudden as an actual lightning strike, the F-150 Lightning becomes the quickest and most powerful F-150 in the lineup. Ford estimates it can accelerate from 0 to 60 mph in 4.4 seconds. The quickest Ford F-150 MotorTrend has tested was the previous-generation off-road Raptor model, with a best time of 5.2 seconds.

Another key point: The 2022 Ford Lightning becomes the first F-150 to get an independent rear suspension—necessary for packaging the rear motor—along with its corresponding benefits to ride and handling. The truck does not have air suspension.

In other words, the Lightning not only goes electric but also addresses common complaints people have of most trucks: fuel economy, ride, and handling.


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How Else Does The Lightning Differ From The Standard F-150?


Riding on a new EV platform, with the latest electrical architecture and fourth-generation electronics, the F-150 Lightning becomes the smartest and most connected truck in Ford's lineup, offering a new wealth of features and apps, along with a giant 15.5-inch touchscreen to access many of them.

It also makes it easier to receive over-the-air software updates throughout its lifetime to address potential issues and to also update and add new features, such as better maps, seamless charging and payment, or enhanced BlueCruise, Ford's hands-free highway-driving assist system.

Please Repeat That Starting MSRP Again …


Perhaps the most startling Lightning feature is its starting price. As mentioned, the base work truck starts at $41,669 and is available for both retail and fleet customers. It is one of four trims; the others are the popular XLT (which starts at $54,669), Lariat (starting price forthcoming), and Platinum (about $90,000).

For comparison, the 2022 GMC Hummer EV electric pickup launches this fall with the fully loaded Edition 1, which starts at $112,595. The lowest trim, the EV2, runs $79,995 and won't be available until 2024. You can buy two Lightning XLTs for the price of a Hummer Edition 1. Another competitor, the 2021 Rivian R1T that goes on sale next month, starts at $67,500. Teslacontinues to develop the Cybertruck, which it wants to sell for $39,900, but past experience suggests it will sticker for much more, and the launch date, potentially by year end, may be fluid going on late.

Ford is taking reservations for the Lightning now, requiring a $100 deposit to get on the list. Officials won't say how many orders will constitute a sold-out first model year, but the company expects strong demand. About 2,300 of Ford's 3,000 U.S. dealers are certified to sell and service EVs, and the Lightning initially will only be available in North America.

Meet Ford's New Skateboard (And Battery)


The 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning has been in the works for about three years, and it is the first vehicle on a new dedicated electric-vehicle platform. The skateboard was designed from the ground up with a new frame positioning the battery pack between the rails, extending between the front and rear motors. There are no plans to add a third motor for performance. An exoskeleton, waterproof casing, and full-body metal skidplates protect the battery.

Ford did not reveal the size of the Lightning's pouch-style lithium-ion battery packs. The high-energy-density cells use a nickel-manganese-cobalt cathode chemistry with particularly low cobalt loading. They will come from the new SK Innovation battery plant in Georgia. For repairs, technicians will be able to remove suitcase-sized sections of the battery.

The skateboard is flat and low, which makes loading items into the front trunk (frunk) easier. The front suspension was also bolstered to give the frunk a payload of 400 pounds.

Batteries are heavy, and the truck weighs about 6,500 pounds, roughly 1,000 more than the same truck with the 3.5-liter engine. The batteries alone weigh about 1,800 pounds, Ford officials told President Joe Biden during a tour of the Rouge Complex in Dearborn, Michigan, where the truck will be assembled. Biden later took one of the Lightnings for a spin in an empty lot, with a U.S. Secret Service agent in the passenger seat. "This sucker's quick," the commander in chief said afterward.


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Charging The 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning


All trucks come with a mobile charger that can either plug into a standard 240-volt outlet, which provides about 13 miles per charging hour at 32 amps, or into a regular 120-volt outlet to charge at 3 miles per hour. The new 80-amp home charger, Ford Charge Station Pro, is the better way to go, charging up 30 miles of range in an hour and getting the larger extended-range battery from 15 to 100 percent charge in about eight hours.

At a DC fast charger, the extended-range Lightning can gain 54 miles of range in 10 minutes and charge from 15 to 80 percent in about 41 minutes. The charge port is on the front driver's side of the vehicle, as opposed to the Hummer, which puts the port at the back of the truck on the assumption owners will back into the charger stations.

The Lightning uses 400-volt charging, as compared with 800-volt charging for the Hummer.

Ford has cobbled together a network of 63,000 charge plugs from assorted partners, and the number grows. On-screen apps help find available chargers and are supposed to show, in real time, if they are working and available. Customers can use the FordPass app to access them. Buyers will receive the first 250 kW free, which should be good for about four full charges. The onboard Intelligent Range feature will figure out the best places to recharge, factoring in weather, traffic, payload (determined by onboard sensors), towing weights, your driving habits, and more, to adjust the range accordingly.


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[TeslaGod]

Ford and all ICE vehicle maker's will have to run at a loss for a decade to catch up to Tesla.

How can an ICE vehicle manufacturers change 50 to 100% of there core business that they have been running for 50 to 100 years and not expect to hurt there bottom lines.

Tesla is becoming profitable by the billions.

Ford has to rely on Investors and government handouts accepting a loss for years while Tesla has already been through this stage over a decade ago.

By the time these dinosaur companies catch up TESLA will be in full production mode of there TESLA bot, and will have solved fully automated driving.