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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    It was on the rugby table he did this and after agreeing not to and signing a $4 million contract. He can now talk freely about his beliefs.
    No it wasn't and that is the scary thing here. Folau's workplace is the rugby field, his uniform is the wallaby jumper. He was on his own time when he posted, didn't mention rugby or incite anyone to violence. He hasn't written antigay slogans on his jersey or said anything connecting rugby to it, unlike the reactions of some of his divisive, inclusive not inclusive team mates, who, although they already knew his views, say now they will find it difficult to play with him or pick him. Their hypocrasy reeks almost as much as that of Qantas.

    What will be the next taboo subject someone can be sanctioned for speaking about on their own time? When did society begin taking its moral standards from corporations whose only loyalty is to money, and sports administrators?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonu View Post

    What will be the next taboo subject someone can be sanctioned for speaking about on their own time?
    Someone suggesting to a kid Santa will deliver a lump of coal if they dont behave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minimoke View Post
    Folau wasnt inciting anyone to harm anyone. He didnt pick on any rugby players or anyone in particular. He didnt assault anyone.

    I dont see why homosexuals (nad those backing them) seem to think they have the monopoly on offence. Who out there is backing the fornicators and drunks
    Fornicating and getting drunk are the result of exercising free will. Being heterosexual, bisexual or homosexual are part of one’s natural make-up or identity

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bjauck View Post
    Fornicating and getting drunk are the result of exercising free will. Being heterosexual, bisexual or homosexual are part of one’s natural make-up or identity
    The biological science doesn't back up the sexuality claim so it would appear that complex psychological issues are involved. Or is that taboo to raise as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bjauck View Post
    Fornicating and getting drunk are the result of exercising free will.
    There are expressions such as "drinking with the devil" which is simply another name for alcoholism. Which is now better understood as an illness than a choice. Silence from RA on that front.

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    He can say all he wants from the bible table in future good luck to him on his contract with god , and good for rugby too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    He can say all he wants from the bible table in future good luck to him on his contract with god , and good for rugby too.
    Out of interest JT, what does your employer (if you have one?) ban you from discussing on Sharetrader?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    and good for rugby too.
    Not good for Australian rugby. The run the risk of loosing their very best player coming up to World Cup, Reduce your chances of getting into the semis and finals will see a reduction of advertisers backing you. And when your finances are already looking dire thats a hell of a hole RA are looking into.

    Aside form that how many talented PI's do you think will want to play for Australia.
    So take the best players out of Australia means that NZ wont have exposure to decent competition - so we run the risk of reduced performance. Perhaps leaving the gates open for European countries to take hold again. Which will lead to less interest in the game from the grass roots and so a cycle is set in play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    I will leave you and alan jones to be the contrarians here, no prob with that.The bonus for folau is he can say what he wants when he wants now that he is out of the game to who ever wants to listen.
    He wont be sacked.

    Australia Cricket has set the standard with their ball tampering incident - something far far worse than quoting something from the bible. Those players got suspensions. At worse Folau can expect 4 weeks suspension less time off for suspension already served. He wont have his contract changed as that would be something done under duress and un-enforceable. And he'll be able to pursue his legal appeal which will ultimately see the error in law and in fact of the decision. All the while free to express his religious views

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    Asics joined the virtuous witch hunt now, dropping their relationship with Folau. They are all for inclusiveness - unless a person expresses a view from the bible. Their hypocrisy is staggering - they score as one of the very worse on the sustainability score card: https://rankabrand.org/sportswear-sports-shoes/Asics

    (Pleased I dont wear Asics - and wont in the future)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonu View Post
    The biological science doesn't back up the sexuality claim so it would appear that complex psychological issues are involved. Or is that taboo to raise as well?
    The psyche is indeed part of identity whether homosexual or heterosexual. Societal conditioning is an important factor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minimoke View Post
    There are expressions such as "drinking with the devil" which is simply another name for alcoholism. Which is now better understood as an illness than a choice. Silence from RA on that front.
    There has been research indicating genetic predisposition towards addictive behaviours and the harm to oneself and others that so often brings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bjauck View Post
    There has been research indicating genetic predisposition towards addictive behaviours and the harm to oneself and others that so often brings.
    Yes Bj...you have got there before me. There is more likelihood alcoholics are born that way than homosexuals are. Kind of negates the "no choice " arguments.

    Anyway...just like RA we have strayed along way from Rugby. This decision can't be allowed to stand if Australian employment law wants to keep at arms length from fascism. Who would have thought all those liberal, cuddly PC types were closet fascists? Looks like they have come out of the closet...every pun intended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonu View Post
    Yes Bj...you have got there before me. There is more likelihood alcoholics are born that way than homosexuals are. Kind of negates the "no choice " arguments.

    Anyway...just like RA we have strayed along way from Rugby. This decision can't be allowed to stand if Australian employment law wants to keep at arms length from fascism. Who would have thought all those liberal, cuddly PC types were closet fascists? Looks like they have come out of the closet...every pun intended.
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/...farrjones-mind

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    "Castle met with Folau in London prior to November's test against England and he was advised on writing about his beliefs in a respectful, non-offensive way, according to Farr-Jones." I wonder what was disrespectful or offensive in the post about his belief. Seems he followed the bosses instruction

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