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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    ....all business do this and no doubt do make the business more 'efficient'

    But efficiences are generally 'shared' with the customers (price) so doesn't really improve margins - esp in any competitive industry
    Like Emirates investing billions in shiny new A380 aircraft at approx. $500m a pop only to sell early bird 2018 tickets to selected European destinations for $1,499.
    All those efficiencies given away.
    Ecclesiastes 11:2: “Divide your portion to seven, or even to eight, for you do not know what misfortune may occur on the earth.
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    somebody likened MPG to MVN ther other day

    Could resist a laugh with this from MVN announcemet this morning - Business transformation plan launched targeting margin improvement and operational efficiency
    “ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by bull.... View Post
    i think if you dig deep there margin erosion is bigger than first thought
    a 44% gross margin in 2nd half of F17 is pretty disasterous eh - should have been 53% normalised (of course)
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    Just gotta wait for that dead Possum bounce, just like that old chicken stock aye (Went to $1.05)

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    In my long life I have seen so so many instances of where efficiences and synergies and such things were going to make companies rich and great its not funny .....but invariably they were either never there to start with or if they did achieve some results the customers benefited.

    Things always look so good on paper and in spreadsheets
    Last edited by winner69; 28-08-2017 at 10:49 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by couta1 View Post
    Just gotta wait for that dead Possum bounce, just like that old chicken stock aye (Went to $1.05)
    But don't forget a bounce is just a bounce

    ....and glass is sharp (like falling knives)

    You can tell how long somebody been in the glass industry by how many fingers they have left
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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    In my long life I have seen so so many instances of where efficiences and synergies and such things were going to make companies rich and great its not funny .....but invariably they were either never there to start with or if they did achieve some results the customers benefited.

    Things always look so good on paper and in spreadsheets
    Very true mate and above Emirates deal a classic case in point. Flying all the way to Europe on a top notch carrier for $1,499, who would have thought...

    Quote Originally Posted by couta1 View Post
    Just gotta wait for that dead Possum bounce, just like that old chicken stock aye (Went to $1.05)
    Woof woof. The hound might try and pick up some dead squashed unloved possum at $1 a piece, (opps wait, I'll be part of the squashed possum picture). Do I want it to go down, up or sideways ?
    Ecclesiastes 11:2: “Divide your portion to seven, or even to eight, for you do not know what misfortune may occur on the earth.
    Ben Graham - In the short run the market is a voting machine but in the long run the market is a weighing machine

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    Question Do they do frosted glass

    Wow. You would have thought that you would be clearly able to see the future of a glass manufacturer.

    But the only thing that is transparently obvious is that Beagle says:
    Fly Emirates!

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    LOL to Europe yes, everywhere else fly AIR

    One thing is crystal clear, anyone subscribing at the IPO price of $1.70 has every right to be disappointed with this company.
    Holders keep trucking on down and squashing possums...wonder for how much longer ?
    Last edited by Beagle; 28-08-2017 at 12:31 PM.
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    Hope that bounce is coming soon couts
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