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    Quote Originally Posted by Chinesekiwi View Post
    So Jarden have sold some 3 million odd shares.
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    Looks to me (in a convoluted disclosure to the NZX), that Harbour Asset Management have been the real sellers.
    Ecclesiastes 11:2: “Divide your portion to seven, or even to eight, for you do not know what misfortune may occur on the earth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beagle View Post
    Looks to me (in a convoluted disclosure to the NZX), that Harbour Asset Management have been the real sellers.
    The real question is, are they done?

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    Who knows mate but the timing of their disclosure lines up with my theory that some fund managers have been selling to enable them to participate in the Arvida placement and subsequent rights issue so I think one can legitimately makes the case that joining the dots seems like a reasonable conclusion.

    The Arvida thing, the second part of which closed today - A third of a billion dollars is a big ask as a capital raise on the NZX. I am not surprised its had a material impact on the share price of other companies in the retirement sector.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beagle View Post
    Looks to me (in a convoluted disclosure to the NZX), that Harbour Asset Management have been the real sellers.
    Harbour have SUM as one of their bigger holdings …..in the top 5 in their Australasian Equity Fund
    “ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Harbour have SUM as one of their bigger holdings …..in the top 5 in their Australasian Equity Fund
    A favorite with Fisher Funds as well. Its quite plausible to me that the far easier ability to comprehend SUM's financial statements could be a factor at work here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beagle View Post
    A favorite with Fisher Funds as well. Its quite plausible to me that the far easier ability to comprehend SUM's financial statements could be a factor at work here.
    I agree. Maybe we need to en masse email Investor relations asking for more readable financials or more commentary in laymans terms

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    here`s a weird question Winner.
    OCA`s 1HY report comes out Monday morning 29th. It has always been Thursday or Friday.
    So with your corporate life time of acquired knowledge (coupled with your learned cynicism ) can we read anything into this unusual day for the announcement. I also note its out a week later than usual.

    Perhaps another purchase? or just a result so good they want to give the market a full week of buying opportunity?
    (a simple yes to either question will be just fine)

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    have to wonder why big fund is selling down before results dont you
    one step ahead of the herd

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    Quote Originally Posted by bull.... View Post
    have to wonder why big fund is selling down before results dont you
    Not really, happens all the time and big fund still has an awful lot of shares, why didn't they sell the lot if they were that worried?

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