OCA - Oceania Group - retirement villages

[JohnnyTheHorse]

Well, that's true up to a point, but there is an argument, and a very strong one IMO, that we should allow Omicron to circulate freely in order to provide us with immunity against the next iteration of covid which could be far more deadly.

Hopefully when the government finally gets back from their summer holidays, we can get a steer on what the plan is from here.

IMO, we are due an explanation as to why they delayed the start of the 4 month boosters until 5th January rather than getting on with it immediately the decision was made. Also, why bookings can't be taken until 17 January (surely not because programmers on summer holidays). I doubt the PR machine will provide answers though.

At the end of the day (and probably much much sooner) Omicron will be raging through anyway as the MIQ systems won't be competent to keep it out, and there's no way NZ will accept going back to hard lockdown

Look at the data coming out on how little protection Pfizer provides on symptomatic infection (note it still provides good protection at minimising severity) after 5+ months post 2nd dose vs. having booster dose. This shows why it is absolutely critical we get booster doses as high as possible within the next 4 weeks, or NZ hospitals will quite simply be severely overwhelmed (unless we went back to a level 4 type lockdown). We have a small window to minimise the impact of what Omicron is going to do to us and at this stage we would be stupid not to take advantage of it.

We still need to be aiming to opening borders end of Feb imo.

[Biscuit]

Well, that's true up to a point, but there is an argument, and a very strong one IMO, that we should allow Omicron to circulate freely in order to provide us with immunity against the next iteration of covid which could be far more deadly.....

So, you have learnt nothing in nearly two years of this pandemic?

[iceman]

So, this is the complete opposite of the truth. The longer we hold it off, the more people are vaccinated. The longer we hold it off the better the treatments available. NZ has dodged a bullet by managing to hold it at bay so well for so long.

"Truth" as the words spoken from the "pulpit of truth" on a daily basis ? What you say here is a repeat of what we were told last year when the drive to 90% double vaccinated was happening. Ralph & Poet made some very valid points, that I agree with.

[777]

Why don't you guys take this rubbish to the coronavirus thread.

[ralph]

Every time someone mentions the covid and a new strain it infects that particular thread for a while and no one knows the truth yet, except Cindy & biscuit of course .

[BlackPeter]

Well, that's true up to a point, but there is an argument, and a very strong one IMO, that we should allow Omicron to circulate freely in order to provide us with immunity against the next iteration of covid which could be far more deadly.

Hopefully when the government finally gets back from their summer holidays, we can get a steer on what the plan is from here.

IMO, we are due an explanation as to why they delayed the start of the 4 month boosters until 5th January rather than getting on with it immediately the decision was made. Also, why bookings can't be taken until 17 January (surely not because programmers on summer holidays). I doubt the PR machine will provide answers though.

At the end of the day (and probably much much sooner) Omicron will be raging through anyway as the MIQ systems won't be competent to keep it out, and there's no way NZ will accept going back to hard lockdown

Anybody knows where the OCA thread is?

[winner69]

Probably be like this in NZ next month.Thousands of residents being locked in their rooms etc etc

Thousands of residents infected as aged care sector hits ‘crisis’
https://www.smh.com.au/national/thou...11-p59nix.html

[Biscuit]

...... no one knows the truth yet, except Cindy & biscuit of course .

Well, yes, Cindy's not always right though.

[ralph]

Get away with you ,blasphemy

[Joshuatree]

So, this is the complete opposite of the truth. The longer we hold it off, the more people are vaccinated. The longer we hold it off the better the treatments available. NZ has dodged a bullet by managing to hold it at bay so well for so long.

Agree and so true re better treatments coming, win/win big big time.We so lucky.
Poet you can wander into a pharmacy without a booking and be out in 15 20 min with your booster.