OCA - Oceania Group - retirement villages

[BlackPeter]

A future govt could embark on cost cutting - esp when health funding doesn't increase by more than CPI this subsidy will be at risk.

Just wait until they need to move the mongrel mob out of the Rotorua 5 star hotels to fill them instead with all the homeless care patients (whose retirement homes went broke).

Unless you propose that this future government you are talking about turned NZ into the next Russia or China ... I suggest that no democratic future government will be able to survive the pictures of homeless care patients lying in the streets.

They need to find a way to appropriately fund the level of care they (and we all) want.

[Panda-NZ-]

Unless you propose that this future government you are talking about turned NZ into the next Russia or China ... I suggest that no democratic future government will be able to survive the pictures of homeless care patients lying in the streets.

The standards of care could be cut (esp when combined with a deregulatory "reform").

[BlackPeter]

The standards of care could be cut (esp when combined with a deregulatory "reform").

Sure ... but where is the problem for the retirement sector?

Wealthy customers will be able to afford for themselves the care standards they want and deserve.

The less wealthy will get the care standards as chosen appropriate by the government they elected. If the government money is only enough to live in a tent village with self care, than this is what they will get.

Maybe another business unit for THL?

OCA (and others) will be able to provide better services for the ones who are able to pay.

Fair enough, isn't it? ... I guess if people really want to live that way (otherwise they would pick another government) - where exactly is the problem?

[ronaldson]

Not to mention the need to fund the new Maori Health Authority and all its associated initiatives, which will undoubtedly constrain all other health expenditures for years to come.

[Balance]

Sure ... but where is the problem for the retirement sector?

Wealthy customers will be able to afford for themselves the care standards they want and deserve.

The less wealthy will get the care standards as chosen appropriate by the government they elected. If the government money is only enough to live in a tent village with self care, than this is what they will get.

Maybe another business unit for THL?

OCA (and others) will be able to provide better services for the ones who are able to pay.

Fair enough, isn't it? ... I guess if people really want to live that way (otherwise they would pick another government) - where exactly is the problem?

Excellent response, BP.

Very revealing though about the woolly and socialist thinking of the current government - as articulated from the likes of panda who is an avowed Ardern & Labour supporter.

They prefer systems which deliver the same low and miserable standard to everyone - be it health, education or any services. If necessary, take from those who study hard, work hard and save hard to those who don't to achieve the great leveling and dumbing down.

[Panda-NZ-]

Excellent response, BP.

Very revealing though about the woolly and socialist thinking of the current government - as articulated from the likes of panda who is an avowed Ardern & Labour supporter.

They prefer systems which deliver the same low and miserable standard to everyone - be it health, education or any services. If necessary, take from those who study hard, work hard and save hard to those who don't to achieve the great leveling and dumbing down.

People who have worked all their lives (and paid income tax through PAYE compared to the wealthy who often pay nothing) deserve dignity in their last years.

[Balance]

People who have worked all their lives (and paid income tax through PAYE compared to the wealthy who often pay nothing) deserve dignity in their last years.

Ardern & Labour takes from those who study hard, work hard and save hard to those who don't.

Those who don't = Ardern voters.

[Panda-NZ-]

Ardern & Labour takes from those who study hard, work hard and save hard to those who don't.

If people vote for that, then who cares really.

[Bjauck]

Ardern & Labour takes from those who study hard, work hard and save hard to those who don't.

Those who don't = Ardern voters.

Another poster on a political thread coined the word Jacindanoia . It looks like it has afflicted non-political* threads too.

*Sure, politics and government can affect most aspects of business and life in general!

[Balance]

If people vote for that, then who cares really.

Really?

Ardern does not deliver on promises she made to get voted into power but delivers what nobody votes for.

Like people voted for the housing disaster and $1 billion spent on emergency housing?

Like people voted for Hipkins inciting abuse & odium against a pregnant woman because she challenged the pulpit of truth?