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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Yep things do move in ‘interesting’ ways at the big end of town eh

    Craig’s must have been impressed with the half year report.
    Macquarie Bank selldown?

    Based upon their track frecord of milking every cent out of their investments and using 'creative' accounting when selling down, they can keep the stock imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davexl View Post
    Do minority shareholders have ANY rights in a share placement scenario, or do we have to just bend over and take it...
    ...if you are well connected (like Joshuatree) you’ll get offered some at $1.20

    This really is a case of somebody with heaps of shares selling out and using a broker or two to sell them in an orderly way. Institutions / Fund Managers will probably take most.

    If they don’t all sell the Underwriter has guaranteed to buy those left over.

    So it’s really a matter of anybody having any rights or whatever you were alluding to.
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    89 million in Craigs hands temporarily. Thats a lot of shares to hold even if you've raised your target price ;+)
    For clarity, nothing I say is advice....

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    ...if you are well connected (like Joshuatree) you’ll get offered some at $1.20

    This really is a case of somebody with heaps of shares selling out and using a broker or two to sell them in an orderly way. Institutions / Fund Managers will probably take most.

    If they don’t all sell the Underwriter has guaranteed to buy those left over.

    So it’s really a matter of anybody having any rights or whatever you were alluding to.

    Wish I was well connected like JT - could have been handy - thanks for the info winner69
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mogul View Post
    Interesting timing for Craigs to increase Target Price from $1.11 to $1.26 today. I do think it is good very value at $1.20 but patience will be required for earnings to grow as still in the chrysalis stage of OCA life cycle.
    No vested interest in doing that is there http://nzx-prod-s7fsd7f98s.s3-websit...676/315877.pdf Even for those that are naïve enough to accept this new theoretical target at $1.26 at face value as a 12 month price target, its hardly a compelling proposition for $1.20 on the table now is it ! Pretty sure a lot of that stock will find its way into various brokers "full client discretionary" managed funds, not just because there's a fat brokerage and underwriting fee... of course not lol

    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    Macquarie Bank selldown?

    Based upon their track frecord of milking every cent out of their investments and using 'creative' accounting when selling down, they can keep the stock imo.
    I couldn't agree more. Further, they will be well aware of how sales at the various villages have gone in just over 8 weeks of the key selling period of summer since the half year report date of 30 November 2019 but are "rather conveniently" keeping that information to themselves. This dog is definitely not getting on the other side of a transaction and swimming with that big shark, once bitten twice shy and I'm staying well clear !
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    Quote Originally Posted by peat View Post
    89 million in Craigs hands temporarily. Thats a lot of shares to hold even if you've raised your target price ;+)
    Curious where you get the Craigs info from Peat? How does raising the target price work in this situation?

    Sorry - just seen the SPH notice.
    Last edited by Davexl; 29-01-2020 at 12:36 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davexl View Post
    Wish I was well connected like JT - could have been handy - thanks for the info winner69
    Just use a full broking service like Craig’s (as opposed to the online ones) and you too can become well connected like Joshuatree
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    A ‘target price’ of $1.26 implies who set that target only values it $1.12/$1.15 today
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    Quote Originally Posted by peat View Post
    89 million in Craigs hands temporarily. Thats a lot of shares to hold even if you've raised your target price ;+)
    eh gonna need to increase that target price now...
    big selldown now gonna be great for share price in the long run they say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davexl View Post
    Wish I was well connected like JT - could have been handy - thanks for the info winner69
    If Maccas last share dump gives any guidance, then don't worry about not getting an offer now - you might get in a couple of weeks the opportunity to buy the shares cheaper on market than the "well connected" people buy them now ;

    From memory - SP dropped after the last dump roughly 10% below the offer price, i.e. there might be some bargains floating around at $1.10 come next month or so ...

    Discl: holding (though I did some "portfolio management" around 130). Might buy some more back if & when above happens ..
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