OCA - Oceania Group - retirement villages

[ratkin]

Have just been to a village ( owned by archer) they have upped their signage etc to keep people out, and I was assured they will get tougher once community transmission kicks off

Problem will be the staff themselves though, unless they living in full time they can easily spread it. Then there are the residents that live In the units, they are pretty much free to come and go as they please

[silverblizzard888]

Its fair to say the best place for the elderly is retirement home communities because all precautions are taken and a high standard of hygiene demanded going forward, but as Ratkin has mentioned and I do agreed, the staff or potentially family members may bring the virus in and it only takes one person and that will be the weakest link. It will only be a matter of time before it gets into these retirement home communities, which is a sad and very unfortunate situation to happen.

The Government has also not made the required funding needed for this matter in terms of dealing with it on medical terms and has said they rather allow a slow spread over time rather than delaying it then having a fast and large amount spread in a short time frame. Theres too much hope that retirement homes won't be affected and thats just not very prudent thinking. Prepare yourself according, this will affect retirement homes and stocks and it won't be nice.

[dobby41]

It will be very easy to organize online shopping or telephone orders for these villages - wouldn't you think so? They can go shopping by themselves, but they certainly don't have to.

It would be good if the management of the villages could coordinate that sort of thing - are they?
The small village my Mum is in doesn't so she has to now walk and take a taxi back (the weekly shopping trip is cancelled for now).
Still better than being elsewhere I think.

[justakiwi]

I for one, am struggling right now. Could those of you in this category please take a moment or two, to consider how your constant, ongoing negative comments may be affecting the rest of us? This used to be a place to come and hang out, do our investing thing, socialise a bit and have a laugh or two. Now it is simply a place to avoid.

I am starting to feel more anxious by the day. We get that this real. We get that it is serious. We get that people will die, and it could even be us. But I really don’t need to be focusing on that right now. If a resident in our rest home gets the virus, the chances are high that I will have to put my hand up to be one of the caregivers on the “isolation” team. I have no dependents and I am reasonably healthy so it makes more sense for me to take on this role than someone with children or existing health issues. But I’m almost 60 - so yep, I class as “elderly” in terms of my risk of getting the virus. I am trying not to think about that but it is scary. I don’t need a constant reminder that “we are all going to die!”

There is nothing to be gained by any of these ongoing “discussions” here. Nothing. Rehashing it, laying blame, predicting disastrous outcomes serves no useful purpose. In fact it does the opposite. It creates stress and anxiety, not only in those of us watching it, but in those of you who seem unable to just shut up about it. So, I agree with BP - can you all just give it a rest please? Set up your own private group here if you want, and continue driving yourselves crazy away from the general forums.

Please.

Any chance the fear mongers could please go back to their fear mongering threads (anything with Coronavirus in the header) and play with themselves instead of infecting the whole forum? This B/S is neither useful or sensical

[Beagle]

People are always going to debate the pro's and con's of investing in a stock and do their SWOT analysis (strength's, weakness's, opportunities and threats). That's really what the forum is all about.

Use the Ignore Button

If someone is really getting on your nerves, or more than one, click "settings" at the very top right of the page, then look half way down on the left of the page for "Edit Ignore list" and add whoever is really getting under your skin to your ignore list. After that, you won't be able to see that they have posted.

Be realistic in your expectations

Asking everyone to stop posting their views whether its good, bad or ugly isn't going to change anything but your own choices about selective use of the ignore button might make your experience on here more enjoyable.

Please accept this post in the spirit of goodwill in which it is intended.

[BlackPeter]

People are always going to debate the pro's and con's of investing in a stock and do their SWOT analysis (strength's, weakness's, opportunities and threats). That's really what the forum is all about.

Use the Ignore Button

If someone is really getting on your nerves, or more than one, click "settings" at the very top right of the page, then look half way down on the left of the page for "Edit Ignore list" and add whoever is really getting under your skin to your ignore list. After that, you won't be able to see that they have posted.

Be realistic in your expectations

Asking everyone to stop posting their views whether its good, bad or ugly isn't going to change anything but your own choices about selective use of the ignore button might make your experience on here more enjoyable.

Please accept this post in the spirit of goodwill in which it is intended.

I see your point. The posters here come from all walks of life, and this includes unfortunately as well people who either panic and learned no other way to deal with their own fears than inducing them into others ... and it includes as well people who just enjoy to make others squirm. We do have a bully culture after all.

Still - I don't think the odd post to remind this crowd what damage they can do with their posts can hurt.

I hope that at least some of them are able to reflect, learn and to improve their behavior. Personally I think that justakiwi's post was appropriate, timely and brave.

And hey - isn't it amazing that some people care for and help others (including sick and old people) while others just want to scare their fellow humans? Humans are so diverse ... and we see more and more the best as well as the worst of mankind, even in these forums.

[justakiwi]

I have no problem with the discussion of coronavirus in relation to investing. It is all the other stuff I have an issue with.

But hey, I’m not even supposed to be here. I stupidly allowed myself to get dragged back in, even though I had promised myself I was going to lurk only. So, for self protective reasons I will take my need for social interaction elsewhere, and will continue my investment learning journey via IM and email with the few “good guys and gals” I have come to respect and trust here.

Fingers crossed we all survive this. In more ways than one.

People are always going to debate the pro's and con's of investing in a stock and do their SWOT analysis (strength's, weakness's, opportunities and threats). That's really what the forum is all about.

Use the Ignore Button

If someone is really getting on your nerves, or more than one, click "settings" at the very top right of the page, then look half way down on the left of the page for "Edit Ignore list" and add whoever is really getting under your skin to your ignore list. After that, you won't be able to see that they have posted.

Be realistic in your expectations

Asking everyone to stop posting their views whether its good, bad or ugly isn't going to change anything but your own choices about selective use of the ignore button might make your experience on here more enjoyable.

Please accept this post in the spirit of goodwill in which it is intended.

[Beagle]

Fair enough. My view is a robust exchange of viewpoints is what makes this a vigorous and interesting place and its easy enough to put anyone who, in one's own opinion is purely trolling, on ignore.

[peat]

rest home wise I think the biggest impact is families not being able to afford the extra cost (vs staying in their homes)

But its usually cheaper for retireds to sell their house and go to a village. Is that what you mean?

[Blue Skies]

I for one, am struggling right now. Could those of you in this category please take a moment or two, to consider how your constant, ongoing negative comments may be affecting the rest of us? This used to be a place to come and hang out, do our investing thing, socialise a bit and have a laugh or two. Now it is simply a place to avoid.

I am starting to feel more anxious by the day. We get that this real. We get that it is serious. We get that people will die, and it could even be us. But I really don’t need to be focusing on that right now. If a resident in our rest home gets the virus, the chances are high that I will have to put my hand up to be one of the caregivers on the “isolation” team. I have no dependents and I am reasonably healthy so it makes more sense for me to take on this role than someone with children or existing health issues. But I’m almost 60 - so yep, I class as “elderly” in terms of my risk of getting the virus. I am trying not to think about that but it is scary. I don’t need a constant reminder that “we are all going to die!”

There is nothing to be gained by any of these ongoing “discussions” here. Nothing. Rehashing it, laying blame, predicting disastrous outcomes serves no useful purpose. In fact it does the opposite. It creates stress and anxiety, not only in those of us watching it, but in those of you who seem unable to just shut up about it. So, I agree with BP - can you all just give it a rest please? Set up your own private group here if you want, and continue driving yourselves crazy away from the general forums.

Please.

Fair enough. Everyone already knows it's a heightened risk group & some of this not helpful.
It's one thing to debate if a businesses SP is undervalued or overvalued & the reasons why, but a bit insensitive & extreme ( am sure completely unintentionally ) imho to constantly speculate that 'death is coming to your place of work & the people you care for' no matter what you do,( with a few posters outdoing each other overcoming objections as to why that may not necessarily happen) all the while discussing if therefore it presents a good buying opportunity.

So well done Justakiwi, am sure you don't need me to tell you but you're doing really important work & making a real difference to peoples lives & we appreciate your posts.