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14-04-2020, 10:50 PM
#4951
Member
Originally Posted by Cyclical
Just thinking aloud here as in two minds about this one atm. It's been a good run and I'm wondering if it's time to bank the profits and build up the powder store for the other bargains that are around the corner, or maybe redirect those funds to a certain other bargain stock in the sector? Or should I just park these OCA ones in the bottom drawer for the long term? I'm thinking I should exercise some patience and do the latter. And if that proves to be a bad move and it drifts lower during the recession, well I guess I'll add some more. I guess in an effort not to be classified as a trader by the IRD, I should also just sit on them. What are others thoughts?
Well I've been pondering the exact same thing today and decided to sell half of what I bought at average of 43 cents. I feel like there will be better buying opportunities elsewhere. If I was thinking about buying in OCA now, I probably wouldn't at these prices, so that reasoning helped me make up my mind. I also picked up some MET at $3.25 and may move the profits into more MET. (From a TA perspective on OCA it also looked to me like the upswing had lost steam, another reason to sell half).
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15-04-2020, 09:04 AM
#4952
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15-04-2020, 09:54 AM
#4953
Yes, cyclical and Longhaul, the classic dilemma. When to take a quick profit, when to stay the course. At times like this, I listen to Kenny Rogers singing "The Gambler". I'm not a good poker player but a bit better an investor and I'm staying!
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15-04-2020, 10:05 AM
#4954
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15-04-2020, 10:12 AM
#4955
Originally Posted by Cyclical
Just thinking aloud here as in two minds about this one atm. It's been a good run and I'm wondering if it's time to bank the profits and build up the powder store for the other bargains that are around the corner, or maybe redirect those funds to a certain other bargain stock in the sector? Or should I just park these OCA ones in the bottom drawer for the long term? I'm thinking I should exercise some patience and do the latter. And if that proves to be a bad move and it drifts lower during the recession, well I guess I'll add some more. I guess in an effort not to be classified as a trader by the IRD, I should also just sit on them. What are others thoughts?
Not sure if it's been captured earlier in the thread, but in today's 1pm C19 update, there was talk of helping out the care providers towards the extra costs incurred with lockdown measures, which is good to hear.
FWIW - Notwithstanding the substantial price difference between OCA and MET, I have quite a lot more MET shares than OCA. I am inclined to add more to MET at prevailing current prices and disinclined to add more OCA.
Ecclesiastes 11:2: Divide your portion to seven, or even to eight, for you do not know what misfortune may occur on the earth.
Ben Graham - In the short run the market is a voting machine but in the long run the market is a weighing machine
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15-04-2020, 03:33 PM
#4956
Originally Posted by Beagle
FWIW - Notwithstanding the substantial price difference between OCA and MET, I have quite a lot more MET shares than OCA. I am inclined to add more to MET at prevailing current prices and disinclined to add more OCA.
In the same boat TBH, have 3x as much MET in dollar terms. Just about finished selling down everything else because the values are just too crazy. If OCA hits the high price I've put on the sell order, then that's great, otherwise I'll just sit on them. Can't say I'm too happy with my lack of diversification ATM, but what can you do.
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15-04-2020, 04:13 PM
#4957
Member
Dont you think OCA has a better and quicker prospect of doubling their price from here than MET?
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15-04-2020, 04:14 PM
#4958
Sometimes the best thing is to be patient and do nothing. I wouldn't want to be broadly diversified in this market, there simply aren't enough shares trading at a bargain price below or in line with the underlying fundamental performance of the economy. I've been investing for nearly 40 years and apart from the odd pocket of fair value like this and deep value like MET and high growth opportunities at realistic prices like PAZ I have never seen the overall market so divorced from the underlying fundamental economic reality. That screams at me to stay out and let economic reality bite which won't happen overnight, but it will happen eventually.
Last edited by Beagle; 15-04-2020 at 04:15 PM.
Ecclesiastes 11:2: Divide your portion to seven, or even to eight, for you do not know what misfortune may occur on the earth.
Ben Graham - In the short run the market is a voting machine but in the long run the market is a weighing machine
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15-04-2020, 05:02 PM
#4959
Junior Member
Originally Posted by Beagle
Sometimes the best thing is to be patient and do nothing. I wouldn't want to be broadly diversified in this market, there simply aren't enough shares trading at a bargain price below or in line with the underlying fundamental performance of the economy. I've been investing for nearly 40 years and apart from the odd pocket of fair value like this and deep value like MET and high growth opportunities at realistic prices like PAZ I have never seen the overall market so divorced from the underlying fundamental economic reality. That screams at me to stay out and let economic reality bite which won't happen overnight, but it will happen eventually.
PAZ?
As for the divorced fundamentals, couldn't agree more just look at what is happening to AIR right now! A great link table view of bear markets and their relative # of trading days is compelling, take into account market sentiment around what is an inevitable extension of being required to work and stay home I predict the bear market low to be right on the cusp of entering Q3 (End of June). The market will readjust, the driving factor of the weeks bounce must eventually be pulled down by the anchor that is the balance sheet most of those semi-functional businesses like AIR will be showing poor results.
# of trading days from Entering Bear Market to Bear Market Low Average 83 days, Bear Market low to Exit Bear Market average 63 days!
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15-04-2020, 05:52 PM
#4960
Last edited by Beagle; 15-04-2020 at 05:54 PM.
Ecclesiastes 11:2: Divide your portion to seven, or even to eight, for you do not know what misfortune may occur on the earth.
Ben Graham - In the short run the market is a voting machine but in the long run the market is a weighing machine
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