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    To be fair its clear they have been in the process of transforming their business model and there was always going to be some pain involved in that. As the old saying the gym trainers use goes, No pain, no gain !
    Ecclesiastes 11:2: “Divide your portion to seven, or even to eight, for you do not know what misfortune may occur on the earth.”
    Ben Graham - In the short run the market is a voting machine but in the long run the market is a weighing machine

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    Not sure if anyone saw this interesting article from Stuff News that came out yesterday https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/124...leading-broker

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    As I’ve often said it’s the power of a story drives corporate value .....ie share prices

    Oceania a great example of this .....the power of the story has produced a share price of $1.40 whereas if priced at a PE of 11 for a no growth company it would still be 70 cents odd.
    “ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”

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    Lets see where these Retirement stock go ....posted on 4/6

    Updated ------4/6--...--6/7-----..-5/8........8/9.......7/10.........7/11........3/12.......10/1.......18/2.......10/3

    Arvida .........$1.37....$1.48 .....$1.60.....$1.65.....$1.77........$1.78.....$1 .67......$1.75......$1.81.....$1.70
    Summerset...$6.34....$6.73......$7.80.....$8.56... ..$9.15.......$10 .50...$10.83....$12.35....$12.92....$12.75
    Ryman.........$13.35..$13.04 ...$12.77....$13.79....$14.85.....$14.7 0...$14.69....$15.05....$15.75....$15.44
    Oceania........$0.94....$0.95 .....$1.03.....$1.04.....$1.20.......$1.36......$1 .29......$1.46......$1.49.....$1.40
    Metlifecare....$4.28....$5.76 .....$5.92.....$5.94.....$5.98 ......$6.00......

    These Building Stocks have all declined recently. LVR 30/40 shortly required will bite plus interest rate increases suggests not all rosy outlook

    Hold OCA........ but would not buy more

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    As I’ve often said it’s the power of a story drives corporate value .....ie share prices

    Oceania a great example of this .....the power of the story has produced a share price of $1.40 whereas if priced at a PE of 11 for a no growth company it would still be 70 cents odd.
    Market is always forward looking as you well know and sees excellent potential for earnings growth in the years ahead now they've passed the famous "point of inflection" with their business transformation program. Average analyst target price is $1.61 https://www.marketscreener.com/quote...268/consensus/
    Ecclesiastes 11:2: “Divide your portion to seven, or even to eight, for you do not know what misfortune may occur on the earth.”
    Ben Graham - In the short run the market is a voting machine but in the long run the market is a weighing machine

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beagle View Post
    Market is always forward looking as you well know and sees excellent potential for earnings growth in the years ahead now they've passed the famous "point of inflection" with their business transformation program. Average analyst target price is $1.61 https://www.marketscreener.com/quote...268/consensus/
    Exactly - it’s the story that’s valued, not the financials

    Believe the story

    Earl wasn’t so bad after all.
    Last edited by winner69; 11-03-2021 at 01:14 AM.
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    the story is dead? earl jumped before being pushed?
    one step ahead of the herd

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    Quote Originally Posted by bull.... View Post
    the story is dead? earl jumped before being pushed?
    Maybe Earl didn't believe the story anymore

    Maybe he listened to people who kept telling him there's no money to be made in care (looking after people) so isn't moving more and more to a care model a bit foolish.....and the penny dropped
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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Maybe Earl didn't believe the story anymore

    Maybe he listened to people who kept telling him there's no money to be made in care (looking after people) so isn't moving more and more to a care model a bit foolish.....and the penny dropped
    someone needs to interview earl ? i can hear the crowd wondering why he thinks met is much better than oca to work for
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