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    You can’t have too many of OCA ..or something like that
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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    You can’t have too many of OCA ..or something like that
    Actually I did have too many at one point( Still plenty of red ink overall )but I'm yet to see any evidence that you can have too many ATM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by couta1 View Post
    Actually I did have too many at one point( Still plenty of red ink overall )but I'm yet to see any evidence that you can have too many ATM.
    Just watch the SML saga unfolding and you might get your requested evidence ;
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPeter View Post
    Just watch the SML saga unfolding and you might get your requested evidence ;
    Better not clog the OCA thread up talking about milk but ATM will either take over SML completely or they will find other sources to meet their needs(Actually I reckon even with complete control of SML they will still eventually need other sources)
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPeter View Post
    Just watch the SML saga unfolding and you might get your requested evidence ;
    SML was loved by many ....but when punters lost faith in management it’s turned turtle eh

    Wonder if punters could lose faith in Oceania’s management if things don’t turn out as expected

    Nice guy CEO with no mongrel doesn’t inspire me .....but we do have Liz so all honky dory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    You can’t have too many of OCA ..or something like that
    Tee Hee ....Best thing since sliced bread?

    Whatever..... OCA is no longer favour of the month it seems.

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    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/property/...ectid=12236080

    Interesting read. It really shows how early the industry is in terms of maturity which is perhaps reflected in the price at the moment. As time goes the population growth in the 70+ region will really weigh on the demand side. We are probably high on the supply side at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by value_investor View Post
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/property/...ectid=12236080

    Interesting read. It really shows how early the industry is in terms of maturity which is perhaps reflected in the price at the moment. As time goes the population growth in the 70+ region will really weigh on the demand side. We are probably high on the supply side at the moment.
    I have been wondering about this as well. Yet it is hard to build quality quickly.

    Regarding the management team. I feel the industry will be attracting plenty of attention as the money is good and the growth is going to be quicker than some other steady industries.

    With my research, mostly in Australia, I feel there is a lot of potential in New Zealand.

    I've spoken with many people who wish to retire in New Zealand... a beautiful safe country

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    I see The Sands asking $850k+ for a two bedroom apartment and having an 'open home' days this Saturday and Sunday 10am till 3pm - I will be going down to check it out and likely post my thoughts on here.
    Hope the person I'll be visiting with doesn't want a pool or spa, otherwise might have to go up the road to the Arvida village (who are also holding an 'open home' days this Saturday and Sunday 11am till 3pm).

    I found it interesting in an article going back 4 odd years: https://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/loc...imes/68954873/... here's what I found interesting:
    - The comment how "Oceania chief financial officer Matthew Ward says the company can maintain affordability for village residents through "sensible intensification" of existing sites"...I hope the 55 existing elderly in the village before moving out got a great bargain somewhere else or in the new village, and not too sure how $850k starting price is very "affordable"...
    - The redevelopment was going to cost $40m... hope they stuck to that budget and we don't find out it cost $50m...
    - Quite proudly mentioned "Each one of our sites is purpose-built for the community and we're very appreciative of the heritage of this site, it will retain the Maureen Plowman name." and how happy the Plowman family and salvation army (the original builders of the village back in the 1980's before OCA brought it in 2005) were... hopefully unlike the blowout in the name change, the redevelopment budget didn't blowout as well...

    I also saw alot of workmen still on site, you can even still see the old Maureen Plowman sign still up... both of these things are a bit surprising given OCA will almost certainly count these 100 ish units as finished in FY19 results to be announced in a bit over a month and a half
    They have to, would be to bigger blow to their development track record if they didn't
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    Unless you've been living under a rock in Auckland for the past decade, $850K for a 2 bedroom apartment north facing right across the road from the beach at Browns Bay is exceptional value. I would have thought $1.2 - $1.4m given the outstanding location basically right on the beach.

    Why don't you take a better photo of the view and post it on here https://www.google.com/maps/place/Th...!4d174.7494198
    Last edited by Beagle; 05-06-2019 at 11:16 PM.
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