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07-07-2023, 10:12 AM
#2291
Originally Posted by SailorRob
NZX hit 3969 in September 1987.
Now it's 4681.
So 36 year return of less than 0.5%.
Massive statement about NZ right there.
The combined value of all listed companies in NZ is far less now than it was in 1987 in real terms.
A fraction.
yep imagine how terrible the performance would have been without 10yrs of money printing
one step ahead of the herd
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07-07-2023, 01:31 PM
#2292
Originally Posted by SailorRob
NZX hit 3969 in September 1987.
Now it's 4681.
So 36 year return of less than 0.5%.
Massive statement about NZ right there.
The combined value of all listed companies in NZ is far less now than it was in 1987 in real terms.
A fraction.
NZ policies have been all about building up the value of housing - and letting listing companies ownership drift overseas. If only we had retained the likes of XRO…
Last edited by Bjauck; 07-07-2023 at 01:35 PM.
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08-07-2023, 09:31 AM
#2293
Originally Posted by Bjauck
NZ policies have been all about building up the value of housing - and letting listing companies ownership drift overseas. If only we had retained the likes of XRO…
Yeah that's a big part of it. That super low return doesn't include the cash out you would get from all the taken over companies.
But incredible nonetheless.
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16-07-2023, 12:06 PM
#2294
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/300...Pos=1#cxrecs_s
Rampant price inflation 'a memory' by mid next year, Infometrics says
Kiernan said the economy was likely to “flirt with” negative growth until the end of 2024, which could look like a milder downturn compared to experiences such as the Global Financial Crisis. But population growth would obscure some of the extent of the weakness.
“A 2.2% decline in per-capita GDP in the year to June 2024 represents a much more significant contraction. This result demonstrates the reversal of households’ fortunes as the economy has slowed. The effects on businesses of each of their customers spending less will only be mitigated by an increase in customer numbers associated with strong net migration.
“Be it a continued slowdown, a double-dip recession, or any other description, the economy is still going to look and feel weaker throughout the rest of 2023 and into 2024. That’s the price we’re paying to get inflation under control and put the New Zealand economy on a more sustainable path. At least we’re now seeing the effects of the tightening in monetary conditions coming through.”
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16-07-2023, 12:44 PM
#2295
Originally Posted by Valuegrowth
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/300...Pos=1#cxrecs_s
Rampant price inflation 'a memory' by mid next year, Infometrics says
Kiernan said the economy was likely to “flirt with” negative growth until the end of 2024, which could look like a milder downturn compared to experiences such as the Global Financial Crisis. But population growth would obscure some of the extent of the weakness.
“A 2.2% decline in per-capita GDP in the year to June 2024 represents a much more significant contraction. This result demonstrates the reversal of households’ fortunes as the economy has slowed. The effects on businesses of each of their customers spending less will only be mitigated by an increase in customer numbers associated with strong net migration.
“Be it a continued slowdown, a double-dip recession, or any other description, the economy is still going to look and feel weaker throughout the rest of 2023 and into 2024. That’s the price we’re paying to get inflation under control and put the New Zealand economy on a more sustainable path. At least we’re now seeing the effects of the tightening in monetary conditions coming through.”
What's Kiernans record of predicting any of this in the past?
So why you posting it then?
What was your one and only 50 bagger?
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16-07-2023, 12:57 PM
#2296
We have to wait and see. Mr Gareth Kiernan used to work as an analyst at Reserve bank. He also have held positions like Economist, Senior economist and Managing director. He has an in-depth understanding of construction sector.Through his long involvement in Infometrics’ team and his dealings with clients, Gareth has an extensive knowledge of the broader NZ economy.
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16-07-2023, 01:08 PM
#2297
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16-07-2023, 01:14 PM
#2298
Originally Posted by SailorRob
What's Kiernans record of predicting any of this in the past?
So why you posting it then?
What was your one and only 50 bagger?
Infometrics forecast usually pretty good …independent, no barrows to push, no set agendas
Kieran more conservative than the likes of that Brad Olsen who works there.
But in saying that I hear it’s hard to make predictions, especially about the future. Rob, I got that from one your heroes Mr Berra
“ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”
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16-07-2023, 01:22 PM
#2299
We can get an idea if you we do research about his background. He has some good knowledge about the economy. Intelligent investors, traders, analyts and forecasters are different from others.In fact, we can learn lot of things from them.
Originally Posted by winner69
Infometrics forecast usually pretty good …independent, no barrows to push, no set agendas.Kieran more conservative than the likes of that Brad Olsen who works there.But in saying that I hear it’s hard to make predictions, especially about the future. I got that from one your heroes Mr Berra
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16-07-2023, 01:25 PM
#2300
Originally Posted by Valuegrowth
We have to wait and see. Mr Gareth Kiernan used to work as an analyst at Reserve bank. He also have held positions like Economist, Senior economist and Managing director. He has an in-depth understanding of construction sector.Through his long involvement in Infometrics’ team and his dealings with clients, Gareth has an extensive knowledge of the broader NZ economy.
We will have to wait and see what his historical record has been??
What??
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