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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda-NZ- View Post
    You complain about slums but NAct (esp with the influence of Seymour) will remove most of the housing quality standards so NZers will soon join them.
    You’re just repeating Left wing talking points, as any propagandist would. The actual substance of ACT’s policy has been ignored by you and replaced with a simple lie. Lying has been a hallmark of Labours campaign & I don’t doubt for a moment that you are a committed Labourite. Your talk of voting for Winston is just laughable.

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    Is winston running on deregulating housing standards? I didn't see that anywhere.
    Last edited by Panda-NZ-; 12-09-2023 at 02:06 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda-NZ- View Post
    Is winston running on deregulating housing standards? I didn't see that anywhere.
    I couldn’t give a hoot what he’s running on, as he seems to forget about everything except the baubles of office once he’s in the cat-bird seat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logen Ninefingers View Post
    I couldn’t give a hoot what he’s running on, as he seems to forget about everything except the baubles of office once he’s in the cat-bird seat.
    Such as, being made a knight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda-NZ- View Post
    Such as, being made a knight?
    If you don’t know how he’s personally got plum roles out of past coalition agreements then I can’t help you. I assume the other party in any debate has a basic knowledge of past events. Vote for him to lower immigration & he’ll grab the Deputy PM role instead. Vote for him to deal with the ‘treaty grievance industry’ & he’ll pocket the coveted Minister of Foreign Affairs role instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logen Ninefingers View Post
    Nobody does hatred and contempt like the Left. Leftism is all about grouping people according to various tropes & then spending your whole life wracked with envy and thirsting for violent revolution, howling about how things aren’t ‘fair’, and calling other people ‘selfish’ at every opportunity. The irony is that many of the people who spend their lives decrying capitalism actually do extremely well out of parasitically tapping into the financial benefits & higher living standards that a capitalistic society enjoys. You’ll note that not many of them are in a hurry to move to socialist utopias like Venezuela and North Korea….better to sit here in some ivory tower or public service role, absolutely milking it while lashing out at ‘selfishness’ and ‘neoliberalism’.
    Here's what to expect from the Leftist Labour Coalition of HATE :

    Brickbat

    Goes to Te Pāti Māori co-leader Rawiri Waititi, who told Q+A’s Jack Tame that National and Act want to see Māori die seven to 10 years early. Just incredible.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    Here's what to expect from the Leftist Labour Coalition of HATE :

    Brickbat

    Goes to Te Pāti Māori co-leader Rawiri Waititi, who told Q+A’s Jack Tame that National and Act want to see Māori die seven to 10 years early. Just incredible.

    Pre-European Maori had a life expectancy of 28 - 30 years, and their ‘healthcare system’ and dietary intake were rudimentary at best.

    For example:
    ‘Bracken fern root was an important staple for many iwi. Eating this increases the chance of cancer. The fibrous Māori diet meant people tended to wear their teeth out, which over time led to malnutrition, disease and death.’

    So tell me again how ‘colonisation’ has lead to appalling outcomes for Maori….

    https://teara.govt.nz/en/te-hauora-m...-health/page-1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logen Ninefingers View Post
    Pre-European Maori had a life expectancy of 28 - 30 years, and their ‘healthcare system’ and dietary intake were rudimentary at best.

    For example:
    ‘Bracken fern root was an important staple for many iwi. Eating this increases the chance of cancer. The fibrous Māori diet meant people tended to wear their teeth out, which over time led to malnutrition, disease and death.’

    So tell me again how ‘colonisation’ has lead to appalling outcomes for Maori….

    https://teara.govt.nz/en/te-hauora-m...-health/page-1
    The below certainly seems preferable to karking it at 30….

    ‘Life expectancy for Māori males was 73.4 years in 2017–2019 (up 3.0 years from 2005–2007), and 77.1 years for Māori females (up 2.0 years).’

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logen Ninefingers View Post
    Pre-European Maori had a life expectancy of 28 - 30 years, and their ‘healthcare system’ and dietary intake were rudimentary at best.

    For example:
    ‘Bracken fern root was an important staple for many iwi. Eating this increases the chance of cancer. The fibrous Māori diet meant people tended to wear their teeth out, which over time led to malnutrition, disease and death.’

    So tell me again how ‘colonisation’ has lead to appalling outcomes for Maori….

    https://teara.govt.nz/en/te-hauora-m...-health/page-1
    Arguing that because pre European Maori had life expectancy of 28-30 years, colonisation did not lead to appalling outcomes for Maori is either ignorant and stupid or frankly racist. You may well be both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davflaws View Post
    Arguing that because pre European Maori had life expectancy of 28-30 years, colonisation did not lead to appalling outcomes for Maori is either ignorant and stupid or frankly racist. You may well be both.
    Your post is disgraceful. It is you who are ignorant, as you seem oblivious to the fact that Maori life expectancy has vastly improved. By becoming subjects of the British Crown, Maori also saw an end of their cultural practices of slavery, cannibalism, and inter-tribal warfare. The end of these practices demonstrably vastly improved the lives of those maori who stood to be eaten or enslaved if colonisation had not occurred.

    I find you posts to be deeply racist in that they do not acknowledge uncomfortable warts-and-all truths, but instead seek to perpetuate *racist* noble savage tropes while seeking to demonise people who did not come to this country with evil intent, but rather came to build a new country through hard-work and mainly peaceful cooperation with the stone-age civilisation that they found here.
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