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22-11-2023, 09:19 AM
#5021
Originally Posted by iceman
You're spreading lots of rumours BS. Just hold your horses. All we be revealed soon enough :-)
Iceman, I wouldn't be surprised if Blueskies is quite right.
Seymour despite him saying he's not interested in the baubles of office is likely to be appointed DPM.
Seymour is no dummy & I wouldn't be surprised if he has used his divisive treaty referendum as a negotiating tool. I.e he knows it would never get through negotiations and has no intention of following through on it but using it as a bargaining chip.
Time will tell.
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22-11-2023, 01:57 PM
#5022
Just been watching a bit of Javier Milei the new Argentinian President. Wish we had someone like him here in NZ....
His interview starts at about 1:13 min in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLvWin8mL2k
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22-11-2023, 03:26 PM
#5023
We're already libertarian, as much as a developed country can be.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/co...rian-countries
Argentina is a great place to invest currently though, privitisations and neoliberalism = a feeding frenzy for us foreign investors.
Last edited by Panda-NZ-; 22-11-2023 at 03:43 PM.
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22-11-2023, 04:23 PM
#5024
You would think Luxon would negotiate away major policy sticking points in return for the prized Deputy PM role.
If Seymour gains the Deputy PM, he would have to surrender the Treaty Referendum, and if Winston gains the Deputy PM role he would have to surrender the Foreign buyers ban. Which leader & party wants it more?
If it goes to Winston, National & NZF will be perceived as the senior partners in the coalition, and if it goes to Seymour - National & ACT will be seen as the senior partners.
In Luxon's absence the Deputy PM represents all 3 parties in the coalition i.e. you could have Winston representing ACT, or Seymour representing NZF, neither will like that.
And now that its out they both want it, they def won't want to be seen as 'a loser' !
However, since Luxon's already announced all the parties policies have been agreed & signed off, presumably he can't use that as leverage.
Unless he already did a deal with Seymour privately, always a possibility & now having problems getting Winston to agree to Seymour being Deputy PM. ( pure conjecture on my part)
Last edited by Blue Skies; 22-11-2023 at 06:25 PM.
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22-11-2023, 07:22 PM
#5025
Originally Posted by Blue Skies
You would think Luxon would negotiate away major policy sticking points in return for the prized Deputy PM role.
If Seymour gains the Deputy PM, he would have to surrender the Treaty Referendum, and if Winston gains the Deputy PM role he would have to surrender the Foreign buyers ban. Which leader & party wants it more?
If it goes to Winston, National & NZF will be perceived as the senior partners in the coalition, and if it goes to Seymour - National & ACT will be seen as the senior partners.
In Luxon's absence the Deputy PM represents all 3 parties in the coalition i.e. you could have Winston representing ACT, or Seymour representing NZF, neither will like that.
And now that its out they both want it, they def won't want to be seen as 'a loser' !
However, since Luxon's already announced all the parties policies have been agreed & signed off, presumably he can't use that as leverage.
Unless he already did a deal with Seymour privately, always a possibility & now having problems getting Winston to agree to Seymour being Deputy PM. ( pure conjecture on my part)
cant have that .. wonder if Kelvin's interested in another term of sleepwalking & spinning BS over nothing to fill the gap and to keep someone here happy ?
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22-11-2023, 07:25 PM
#5026
Last edited by nztx; 22-11-2023 at 07:33 PM.
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23-11-2023, 09:03 AM
#5027
Haha, there's poll going on social media, which would you prefer for Deputy PM ?
A) Winston
B) Seymour
C) A drunk goat
Sorry to say the drunk goat is miles ahead in the poll !
This morning Peter Dunne says Seymour has a stronger argument for the role based on more MP's
while former National PM Jim Bolger says Winston has the stronger argument based on experience while Seymour's still learning on the job.
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23-11-2023, 05:46 PM
#5028
Originally Posted by Blue Skies
Haha, there's poll going on social media, which would you prefer for Deputy PM ?
A) Winston
B) Seymour
C) A drunk goat
Sorry to say the drunk goat is miles ahead in the poll !
This morning Peter Dunne says Seymour has a stronger argument for the role based on more MP's
while former National PM Jim Bolger says Winston has the stronger argument based on experience while Seymour's still learning on the job.
can't be much happening elsewhere .. must all still be licking their wounds & hovering up the crumbs like punch struck drunks having just endured a worst nightmare
Last edited by nztx; 23-11-2023 at 05:47 PM.
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23-11-2023, 05:48 PM
#5029
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politi...BMBHXG2UBY654/
National, NZ First, Act Party coalition talks: Negotiations concluded, official sign-off tomorrow
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23-11-2023, 06:06 PM
#5030
The sad loser Lefty's are still carrying on like muppets. A drunk goat? Sounds like a number of former Labour ministers. Imagine being in Labour or the Greens and never getting a thing done to improve any aspect of life in New Zealand. 6 years of total failure and they still think they have all the answers!
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