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Originally Posted by RTM
I was actually stunned at how hysterical Maiki was over a poll so far away from the election.
Zero objectivity.
It is not a suprise that the current govt are going to bounce around in the polls and take some knocks as they are having to make some really tough calls. I don't envy them, as this first 6 months has really been about trying to get to grips with the state of things and clean up as much as they can.
But the proof will be in the pudding in the next couple of years in terms of who NZers think deserve to govern. Any polls taken now are nothing to get hysterical over.
I just hope Luxon does not direct Goldsmith to do some sort of bailout for this lot. Most of our journalists need to be retrained.
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Originally Posted by mistaTea
I was actually stunned at how hysterical Maiki was over a poll so far away from the election.
Zero objectivity.
It is not a suprise that the current govt are going to bounce around in the polls and take some knocks as they are having to make some really tough calls. I don't envy them, as this first 6 months has really been about trying to get to grips with the state of things and clean up as much as they can.
But the proof will be in the pudding in the next couple of years in terms of who NZers think deserve to govern. Any polls taken now are nothing to get hysterical over.
I just hope Luxon does not direct Goldsmith to do some sort of bailout for this lot. Most of our journalists need to be retrained.
A good perspective on the poll :
https://thebfd.co.nz/2024/04/30/no-s...n-latest-poll/
Excerpts :
"There should be no surprises in the latest 1News poll, released yesterday, that shows support for the coalition has slumped. No surprises here because the Media Party has been on the attack since the Government was formed, hostile to everything because their preferred parties were rinsed in the election.
TV News was gleeful, headlining that if an election were held today the Government would be out. Thankfully an election won’t be held today. But the Government does need to wake up.
Christopher Luxon has tried to be all things to all people, being weak and woke at the same time. Given a choice between Labour or Labour-lite, people would choose Labour.
Steady as she goes. There is a warning here though. National will have to start doing things, rather than doing the usual status quo rubbish they are prone to do when in power.
Right now the best tactic for the Government would be to starve the media of revenue from government advertising."
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Originally Posted by Balance
A good perspective on the poll :
https://thebfd.co.nz/2024/04/30/no-s...n-latest-poll/
Excerpts :
"There should be no surprises in the latest 1News poll, released yesterday, that shows support for the coalition has slumped. No surprises here because the Media Party has been on the attack since the Government was formed, hostile to everything because their preferred parties were rinsed in the election.
TV News was gleeful, headlining that if an election were held today the Government would be out. Thankfully an election won’t be held today. But the Government does need to wake up.
Christopher Luxon has tried to be all things to all people, being weak and woke at the same time. Given a choice between Labour or Labour-lite, people would choose Labour.
Steady as she goes. There is a warning here though. National will have to start doing things, rather than doing the usual status quo rubbish they are prone to do when in power.
Right now the best tactic for the Government would be to starve the media of revenue from government advertising."
Communication is key. A bit of a challenge when you are moving at pace, but when people see constant negative 'news' and the government is not clear on exactly what they are cutting, and how people can be assurd that their services they need will still be there... the info vacuum can get people thinking worst case scenario.
Wheras I think there is nothing really to see until the Budget is announced.
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Originally Posted by mistaTea
Communication is key. A bit of a challenge when you are moving at pace, but when people see constant negative 'news' and the government is not clear on exactly what they are cutting, and how people can be assurd that their services they need will still be there... the info vacuum can get people thinking worst case scenario.
Wheras I think there is nothing really to see until the Budget is announced.
Oh there's plenty to see in terms of staff cuts. The big question is whether you consider that good or bad news.
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Originally Posted by RTM
Oh there's plenty to see in terms of staff cuts. The big question is whether you consider that good or bad news.
They have certainly given numbers on the number of people getting the sack at the various ministries, as well as overall dollar amounts of savings.
But I dont really know what those roles are, and what it means in terms of executing the fundamental purpose of each organisation etc.
It 'sounds like' a lot of these roles are just not necessary, and the current govt believes they can reduce headcount, save cash and refocus the remaining resources. That sounds good and prudent to me.
But MSM paint a different picture, and give the impression that the job cuts/cost savings translate to a reduction in quality and quantity of service/care as a result. Govt reducing services left, right and centre so they can give tax cuts.
This is where communication from the current govt is more important than ever. They are in an environment where they are forced to make some really tough decisions to try and steady the ship as a start while also dealing with a hostile media.
And if anyone still doesn't think the MSM is hostile to the current govt, please go back and watch the 11 minute hysterical presentation on 1 News by Maiki Sherman on the recent poll. They dedicated damn near 20% of their show to Maiki all but dancing the Commala on stage.
Last edited by mistaTea; 30-04-2024 at 01:36 PM.
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Originally Posted by mistaTea
They have certainly given numbers on the number of people getting the sack at the various ministries, as well as overall dollar amounts of savings.
But I dont really know what those roles are, and what it means in terms of executing the fundamental purpose of each organisation etc.
It 'sounds like' a lot of these roles are just not necessary, and the current govt believes they can reduce headcount, save cash and refocus the remaining resources. That sounds good and prudent to me.
But MSM paint a different picture, and give the impression that the job cuts/cost savings translate to a reduction in quality and quantity of service/care as a result. Govt reducing services left, right and centre so they can give tax cuts.
This is where communication from the current govt is more important than ever. They are in an environment where they are forced to make some really tough decisions to try and steady the ship as a start while also dealing with a hostile media.
And if anyone still doesn't think the MSM is hostile to the current govt, please go back and watch the 11 minute hysterical presentation on 1 News by Maiki Sherman on the recent poll. They dedicated damn near 20% of their show to Maiki all but dancing the Commala on stage.
Thats a great summary, especially last paragraph.
But I wouldn't want them to spend an undue amount of time on comms at this stage. It's a no win. They need to push on, get stuff done and working more efficiently. They will be judged on results, and they have about thirty months to achieve those results. And another point..unrelated, a three year term is hopeless, especially when there is a change of government. Should by 5 years for the first term when the government changes, reverting to 3 thereafter.
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Originally Posted by RTM
Thats a great summary, especially last paragraph.
But I wouldn't want them to spend an undue amount of time on comms at this stage. It's a no win. They need to push on, get stuff done and working more efficiently. They will be judged on results, and they have about thirty months to achieve those results. And another point..unrelated, a three year term is hopeless, especially when there is a change of government. Should by 5 years for the first term when the government changes, reverting to 3 thereafter.
Yeah, a balancing act for sure in terms of enough comms to take the people on the journey versus spending so much time trying to comms everything that you lose focus and fail to actuall deliver.
As per Parliamentary term... I think someone once said that three years is nowhere near long enough for a good government, but far too long for a bad one!
Careful what you wish for...
Under a 5 year Parliamentary term we may have ended up with 10 years of Labour and we would 100% be bankrpupt by the time they eventually got the boot
Last edited by mistaTea; 30-04-2024 at 04:35 PM.
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Originally Posted by Balance
Right now the best tactic for the Government would be to starve the media of revenue from government advertising."
I'd love to see that. However, could you imagine? Ironically, the MSM would then cry foul that the govt is now interfering in the fourth estate
Last edited by causecelebre; 30-04-2024 at 01:58 PM.
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Originally Posted by causecelebre
I'd love to see that. However, could you imagine? Ironically, the MSM would then cry foul that the govt is now interfering in the fourth estate
But okay for them to receive bribe money in return for blindly supporting Labour's racist policies and kissing Ardern's arse.
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Originally Posted by Balance
But okay for them to receive bribe money in return for blindly supporting Labour's racist policies and kissing Ardern's arse.
Exactly, hypocrites. That PIJF.....
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