Nat/act/nzf 2023

[Bjauck]

Sorry comrade. Welcome to democracy where a seat at the table is decided by the constituency and not racial entitlement

The mayors are elected by the electors in their area. This seems to be a question of the comrades from central government forcing an unwanted local government policy on the democratically elected local government. These mayors seem to think their priorities lie elsewhere.

[causecelebre]

The mayors are elected by the electors in their area. This seems to be a question of the comrades from central government forcing an unwanted local government policy on the democratically elected local government. These mayors seem to think their priorities lie elsewhere.

Yes the mayors are elected but Maori wards are not. They are chosen by the council. This effectively gives full voting positions to unelected (as in, not by the general electorate) councillors. Having unelected councillors is fundamentally undemocratic

[iceman]

The mayors are elected by the electors in their area. This seems to be a question of the comrades from central government forcing an unwanted local government policy on the democratically elected local government. These mayors seem to think their priorities lie elsewhere.

Did any of these 50 Mayors mention they wanted to introduce Maori wards without consultation with the electorate, during their election campaigns ?

The parties in the coalition Government did say they wanted the wards only if the electorate voted for them.

Democracy has spoken

[Bjauck]

Did any of these 50 Mayors mention they wanted to introduce Maori wards without consultation with the electorate, during their election campaigns ?

The parties in the coalition Government did say they wanted the wards only if the electorate voted for them.

Democracy has spoken

Did a majority of the voters in each of those 50 local government areas vote for a Coalition Party? Were voters in a nationwide election voting specifically on their local issues?

I actually support the National Party stand on Māori wards, but I also do recognise that elected Mayors have more of a handle on their local issues and priorities.

The people of Auckland never got a more direct say on the Auckland Super City amalgamation. That too was a gloomy day for democracy.

[Bjauck]

Yes the mayors are elected but Maori wards are not. They are chosen by the council. This effectively gives full voting positions to unelected (as in, not by the general electorate) councillors. Having unelected councillors is fundamentally undemocratic

Local elections are only quasi-democratic with the Landlord vote too.

If you want democracy, there should be no Landlord roll, and no unelected councillors entitled to vote on all matters. Any change to local constitutions should only be approved by local referendum.

[Bjauck]

Talking of democracy - the voting age should be 16y. If you are deemed mentally competent enough to drive, refuse medical treatment, get a firearms licence and work full time, then you should be able to vote. Otherwise the minimum age for all those activities should rise.

[iceman]

Did a majority of the voters in each of those 50 local government areas vote for a Coalition Party? Were voters in a nationwide election voting specifically on their local issues?

I actually support the National Party stand on Māori wards, but I also do recognise that elected Mayors have more of a handle on their local issues and priorities.

The people of Auckland never got a more direct say on the Auckland Super City amalgamation. That too was a gloomy day for democracy.

I have no idea. Don't even know who the 50 Mayors are. But the Government sets our laws and all Mayors and Councils can now put it to their local voters if they wish, not just make such important decisions without any discussion or local input into it. I can not see what the issue is

[Bjauck]

I have no idea. Don't even know who the 50 Mayors are. But the Government sets our laws and all Mayors and Councils can now put it to their local voters if they wish, not just make such important decisions without any discussion or local input into it. I can not see what the issue is

The coalition is making the abolition into an issue, whereas the Mayors say attention would be better spent elsewhere. Anyway since local democracy is claimed to be key for the Coalition, maybe they will support the Abolition of the Ratepayer Roll. https://www.parliament.nz/en/pb/hans...20_20240320_40

[nztx]

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...ADJAQCYS2YZ2U/

Reserve Bank governor Adrian Orr hits back as row over capital rules resumes


Did someone mutter a mention of 'Past Utter C*ck-ups" ?

even if the fat boy from labour had an oar in things


perhaps he might be able to assist with helping look for a new day job ..

[Balance]

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...ADJAQCYS2YZ2U/

Reserve Bank governor Adrian Orr hits back as row over capital rules resumes


Did someone mutter a mention of 'Past Utter C*ck-ups" ?

even if the fat boy from labour had an oar in things


perhaps he might be able to assist with helping look for a new day job ..

Reason why Adrian Orr and RBNZ fxxked up monetary policy and fxxked up the economy in cohorts with Clueless Cindy & her equally clueless Robbo :

https://www.rbnz.govt.nz/hub/publica...eech2022-06-13

WTF is the RBNZ doing, getting involved in politics?

This post sums up best what Adrian Orr and his idiots at the RBNZ have been up to :

Rob Beechey said...

"In 2019 the RBNZ had staff numbers of 275 but by 2023 its ranks swelled to 510 and delivered a level of incompetence not seen before in NZ.

If Adrian Orr had an ounce of dignity he would step down as the most clueless governor ever to draw breath.

His arrogance this week to blame everybody but himself says everything about his arse covering character."