p2r thanks for those details. Whether they can manage PSA without losing too much on the bottom line ,or not time will tell, i hope so, for the industry.One ex grower i spoke to is not optimistic and is stuck with his shares; liquidity is bad. Do Growers who sign up with the packhouse get offered shares and then can sell them on NZX afetr escrow? Im guessing yes, so tradeable Liz. Any kiwifruit growers on sharetrader with your eperience be great to hear,cheers.