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25-02-2016, 08:52 PM
#7131
I brought a few more HBL this afternoon at $1.13.
Over the next year or so I am expecting 8 cents dividend.
My target price is between $1.25 and $1.35.
At $1.25 I will make 12 cents sp gain + 8 cents divie.Total 20 cents or 17.7%.
At $1.35 I will make 22 cents sp gain + 8 cents divie.Total 30 cents or 26.5%.
Perhaps over the next year[or two], the market will value HBL on its own merits,rather than grouping it with the Australian Banks.
When that happens, I expect PE expansion which will take the sp above $1.35.Therefore I am "well positioned."
Last edited by percy; 25-02-2016 at 08:53 PM.
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25-02-2016, 09:46 PM
#7132
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26-02-2016, 03:16 PM
#7133
Liquidity Buffer Ratio HY2015 (Period Ended 31/12/2014)
Originally Posted by Snoopy
A change of tactic is required here as six months ago I was writing tosh. The revised HY2014 report is as follows:
Time to look at the Liquidity Buffer ratio, the balance between monies borrowed and monies lent and matching up those maturity dates using a one year time horizon. The equation we are looking to satisfy is:
(Total Current Money to Draw On)/(Net Current Loans Outstanding) > 10%
On one side of the equation, we have borrowings.
HNZ BORROWINGS
HNZ has total borrowings of $2,524.460m (see Statement of Financial Position). This is made up of:
1/ Term deposits ($1,805.954m) lodged with Heartland (see note 11).
2/ Securitized Borrowings total $267.645m
3/ Subordinated Bonds (new for HY2014 but only worth $3.369m)
Note 11 gives no clear breakdown given of current and longer-term borrowing maturity dates.
The group has securitized bank facilities totalling $400m, all in relation to the Heartland ABCP Trust 1 (ABCP Trust). ABCP Trust has a maturing facility of $400m maturing 7th August 2014 (barely 5 weeks away),
These facilities are drawn by $268m (c.f. FY2013: $259m).
All securitized asset activity relates to a time frame no more than one year out in the future, but in this case just 5 weeks. Nevertheless, maturity date rollover renegotiations have happened without trouble over the last two years.
The amount of securitized holdings drawn has increased by $8m (3.1%). The maximum amount that can be borrowed under securitized arrangements has dropped too, from $500m to $400m. This is because the extra CBS Trust securitisation arrangements, worth up to $100m, have been wound up. The net result of all this is that the borrowing headroom available using securitized bonds is now:
$400m - $268m = $132m
All three sources of funds (itemized above) have been on loaned to customers who want loans.
HNZ LENDINGS
Customers owe HNZ 'Finance Receivables' of $1.905.850m. There is no breakdown in note 10 as to what loans are current or longer term. However, if we look at note 18b, we can see the expected maturity profile of total finance receivables due over the next twelve months.
$180.669m + $463.129m + $349.681m = $993.479m
These are offset by short-term borrowings over twelve months of
$599.902m + $751.307m + $647.731m = $1998.980m
Thus, the net expected maturity of receivables is:
$993.479m - $1,998.980m = -$1,005.501m
The negative sign means that less money is coming in from loans to customers that have matured, than the amount of money due to be repaid to the debenture holders. Such a gap can be closed by simply taking on more debenture borrowings. Nevertheless, it is also prudent to have some back up bank borrowing headroom (HNZ has $132m) to partially close the gap.
$132m / $1,005.501m = 13.1% > 10%
=> Pass Short term liquidity test
Time to look at the Liquidity Buffer ratio, the balance between monies borrowed and monies lent and matching up those maturity dates using a one year time horizon. The equation we are looking to satisfy is:
(Total Current Money to Draw On)/(Net Current Loans Outstanding) > 10%
Numbers are taken from the interim report dated 31-12-2014.
On one side of the equation, we have borrowings.
HNZ BORROWINGS
HNZ has total borrowings of $2,657.084m (see Statement of Financial Position). This is made up of:
1/ Term deposits ($1,784.628m) lodged with Heartland (see note 14, IR2015).
2/ Bank Borrowings totalling $565.519m
2/ Securitized Borrowings totalling $303.558m
3/ Subordinated Bonds worth $3.379m.
IR2015 does not give a breakdown given of current and longer-term borrowing maturity dates.
The group has securitized bank facilities totalling $350m, all in relation to the Heartland ABCP Trust 1 (ABCP Trust). The ABCP Trust facility of $350m matures on 4th August 2015.
These facilities are drawn to $304m (c.f. FY2014: $229m).
Securitized asset maturity date rollover renegotiations have happened without trouble over the last two years.
The amount of securitized holdings drawn has increased by $75m (33%). The maximum amount that can be borrowed under securitized arrangements has dropped again too, from $400m to $350m. The borrowing headroom available using securitized bonds is now:
$350m - $304m = $46m
All four sources of funds (itemized above) have been on loaned to customers who want loans.
HNZ LENDINGS
Customers owe HNZ 'Finance Receivables' of $2,749.232m. There is no breakdown in note 12 IR2015 as to what loans are current or longer term. However, if we look at the legal declaration to the reserve bank
http://www.heartland.co.nz/_template...x?documentid=5
and select that for December 2014 more detail is available. Note 19 from declaration DEC2014 , shows the expected maturity profile of total finance receivables due over the next twelve months.
$88.187m + $568.729m + $439.009m = $1,095.925m
These are offset by short-term borrowings expected to be repaid over the coming twelve months of
$5.132m + $310.986m + $184.161m = $500.279m
Thus, the net expected maturity of receivables is:
$1095.925m - $500.279m = $595.646m
The positive sign means that more money is expected coming in from loans to customers that have matured, than the amount of money due to be repaid to the debenture holders.
=> Pass Short term liquidity test
Last edited by Snoopy; 28-02-2016 at 11:12 AM.
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26-02-2016, 03:52 PM
#7134
Originally Posted by goldfish
I'd love to know who that bot is selling for, been at it for 4 days now I think.
Any ideas???
No idea but its relentless... like a dripping tap that never stops.
Ecclesiastes 11:2: “Divide your portion to seven, or even to eight, for you do not know what misfortune may occur on the earth.”
Ben Graham - In the short run the market is a voting machine but in the long run the market is a weighing machine
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26-02-2016, 03:57 PM
#7135
Originally Posted by Roger
No idea but its relentless... like a dripping tap that never stops.
Maybe Percy programmed his computer wrong?
“ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”
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26-02-2016, 04:00 PM
#7136
Last edited by Beagle; 26-02-2016 at 04:02 PM.
Ecclesiastes 11:2: “Divide your portion to seven, or even to eight, for you do not know what misfortune may occur on the earth.”
Ben Graham - In the short run the market is a voting machine but in the long run the market is a weighing machine
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26-02-2016, 04:06 PM
#7137
That bot (if there is actually one)
Saudi's selling bank stocks globally
Doubt if they have any Heartland though
“ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”
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26-02-2016, 05:09 PM
#7138
Originally Posted by winner69
Maybe Percy programmed his computer wrong?
For the record.
I am not capable of programming my computer in any way.
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26-02-2016, 08:12 PM
#7139
Junior Member
Originally Posted by goldfish
I'd love to know who that bot is selling for, been at it for 4 days now I think.
Any ideas???
Relentless DRIP........might be the Guru haha
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26-02-2016, 09:43 PM
#7140
Yes please! Dear Mr Market, please keep your head in the sand, and continue to ignore the great fundamentals and impressive first half report. It would be much appreciated for you to do what was done about 6 months ago, keep the share price low until Dividend reinvestment is complete, then begin a steady rise (except this time Mr Market maybe you'll wake up and not let the price drift down back into the bargain basement it is currently in)
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