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22-06-2017, 07:50 AM
#12461
Originally Posted by GTM 3442
Oh, I don't know, elZorro.
I'm inclined to think that when it comes to lowering the floor, everyone's had their fair go with the digger.
I've known a few MPs over the years and like you, I wonder how they manage to stay in office. I've also wondered how some of them ever got selected in the first place. I lean to the suspicion that perhaps they know where the bodies are buried.
Regardless, it's National who are looking fairly shady at the moment. Bill English was complicit in a cover-up, and John Key as PM offered money from his own taxpayer slush fund to keep it quiet. Why was Todd Barclay so important to them in 2016?
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2017/06/2...nglish-barclay
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22-06-2017, 08:42 AM
#12462
Originally Posted by elZorro
Regardless, it's National who are looking fairly shady at the moment. Bill English was complicit in a cover-up, and John Key as PM offered money from his own taxpayer slush fund to keep it quiet. Why was Todd Barclay so important to them in 2016?
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2017/06/2...nglish-barclay
El Zorro, I know you may be fizzing all over this but the average family man/woman does not really care as long as the WFF keeps coming, the job pays the bills and their individual situation stays the same or improves. Fortunately for National more than 50% of ppl in this country are in that boat. They do not really care what some 26 year old punk may or may not have been taping on a dictaphone in the deep south.
Last edited by blackcap; 22-06-2017 at 09:39 AM.
Reason: oops changed a j to an f
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22-06-2017, 09:14 AM
#12463
Originally Posted by blackcap
El Zorro, I know you may be jizzing all over this but the average family man/woman does not really care as long as the WFF keeps coming, the job pays the bills and their individual situation stays the same or improves. Fortunately for National more than 50% of ppl in this country are in that boat. They do not really care what some 26 year old punk may or may not have been taping on a dictaphone in the deep south.
And that is the sad part really - people don't care about honesty and integrity anymore.
Shonkey used to say 'the public don't care' and he got away with some amazing stuff.
To Bills credit he just doesn't look as comfortable lying as Shonkey did.
But he still lies!
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22-06-2017, 09:22 AM
#12464
Last edited by BlackPeter; 22-06-2017 at 09:23 AM.
Reason: never use the same smiley twice in one post ;)
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22-06-2017, 12:12 PM
#12465
Barclay already forgotten.. looks like Labour have been playing naughty boys:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/poli...rseas-students
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22-06-2017, 01:00 PM
#12466
How many of these are you billeting, el Zorro?
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22-06-2017, 01:32 PM
#12467
No need to hurry, you'll get your turn
Originally Posted by elZorro
Regardless, it's National who are looking fairly shady at the moment. Bill English was complicit in a cover-up, and John Key as PM offered money from his own taxpayer slush fund to keep it quiet. Why was Todd Barclay so important to them in 2016?
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2017/06/2...nglish-barclay
One of the laws of nature is that as the sun moves, so does the shade. I think it might be a law of politics too. Maybe even a law of human behavior.
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22-06-2017, 03:29 PM
#12468
Another record annual immigration level has been set. 72,000 extra people to house and provide infrastructure for. NZ citizen returnees equal NZers leaving.
On a per population basis, that would be equivalent to about a million immigants into the UK and 5 million immigrants into the USA. The USA actually had a legal migration level of about one million. What would the political pressures have been like in the US and the UK if they had experienced the scale of immigration that NZ has?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigr..._United_States
http://business.scoop.co.nz/2017/06/...on-tops-72000/
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22-06-2017, 04:06 PM
#12469
Originally Posted by Bjauck
Another record annual immigration level has been set. 72,000 extra people to house and provide infrastructure for. NZ citizen returnees equal NZers leaving.
On a per population basis, that would be equivalent to about a million immigants into the UK and 5 million immigrants into the USA. The USA actually had a legal migration level of about one million. What would the political pressures have been like in the US and the UK if they had experienced the scale of immigration that NZ has?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigr..._United_States
http://business.scoop.co.nz/2017/06/...on-tops-72000/
You are sounding like a Labour spokesperson with that rant
“ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”
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22-06-2017, 04:41 PM
#12470
Originally Posted by winner69
You are sounding like a Labour spokesperson with that rant
Rant? Really? I am neither apologist or spokes person for any party. It was a comparative observation and discussion point. fwiw, I am non-aligned and have not yet decided how I'll vote.
However I don't think Auckland housing and infrastructure is coping adequately for its existing population. If that coincides with Labour opinion, then so be it.
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