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28-12-2017, 05:57 PM
#241
Originally Posted by Rob Optimist
I can't seem to get an updated result for this 2017. When I go into the rankings it is months old.
What am I doing wrong. Cheers
Paper Tiger does updating. Try this
https://papertiger.asia/st2017/
When investors are euphoric, they are incapable of recognising euphoria itself
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28-12-2017, 06:22 PM
#242
Originally Posted by winner69
I believe this is this is testimony to the benefits of being a well informed participant on ST. A mid field performance at 106th place gained 31.5% and I believe the NZX50 is up just 23% by comparison. (Haven't looked at performance relative to other indices movements.)
Ecclesiastes 11:2: Divide your portion to seven, or even to eight, for you do not know what misfortune may occur on the earth.
Ben Graham - In the short run the market is a voting machine but in the long run the market is a weighing machine
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28-12-2017, 07:43 PM
#243
NZX = 22.2%. Have just done the calc for my own purposes!
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29-12-2017, 02:48 PM
#244
Congrats to all 130 participants who beat the NZX50, well done, give yourself a pat on the back and the hound would like to extend sympathy to his fellow Beagle Snoopy who only just missed the cut.
Last edited by Beagle; 29-12-2017 at 03:15 PM.
Ecclesiastes 11:2: Divide your portion to seven, or even to eight, for you do not know what misfortune may occur on the earth.
Ben Graham - In the short run the market is a voting machine but in the long run the market is a weighing machine
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29-12-2017, 03:10 PM
#245
And Balance deserves a special mention ...he set out to come last and lose the most and come last he did.
It does take an awful lot of skill to pick the likes of the NZO, PEB, CGL, SEA and VIL - all perennial losers - knowing that if one came ‘right’ he wouldn’t be last.
Well done Balance me old mate
Addition - was another update since I posted and Balance was pipped at the post and was only second last. Never mind ..you still a hero mate
Last edited by winner69; 30-12-2017 at 08:20 AM.
When investors are euphoric, they are incapable of recognising euphoria itself
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29-12-2017, 09:28 PM
#246
The Race is Finally Run
The rules said that the competition ends with the close of trade on the last trading day of the year...
...which is/was today.
So these are the official results:
2017 NZX Stock Picking Contest
Updated: Fri, 29 Dec 17
Rank |
Name |
Selections |
% Gain |
1 |
Thor |
SKO PPH SML AIR CEN |
197.88% |
2 |
Wetfish |
SKO PPH THL TRA EVO |
166.24% |
3 |
Kaybee |
SKO TRU ARV TRA MOA |
126.14% |
4 |
blobbles |
ATM PPH XRO AIR HBL |
117.88% |
5 |
JK |
ATM PPH FPH THL RYM |
116.92% |
6 |
MPC |
ATM SML XRO AIR SUM |
111.78% |
7 |
Parrot |
ATM SML RBD HBL SCL |
110.25% |
8 |
Top Dog |
ATM FPH THL AIR HBL |
103.48% |
9 |
bohemian |
ATM FPH THL AIR SCL |
103.01% |
10 |
Bosse1 |
ATM ERD XRO IFT WDT |
101.95% |
11 |
Awesome |
ATM SML AIR MFT ARV |
97.89% |
12 |
Roadrunner |
ATM PPH XRO ARV CBL |
94.83% |
13 |
see weed |
ATM THL AIR HLG IFT |
93.01% |
14 |
JeremyALD |
ATM THL RBD HLG IFT |
92.06% |
15 |
LadyGrey |
ATM PPH AIR HBL BLT |
91.14% |
16 |
Everwood |
ATM PPH XRO TIL MOA |
90.58% |
17 |
Scooter |
ATM THL RBD RYM CVT |
87.49% |
18 |
BigBob |
ATM NTL NZO RBC PEB |
86.77% |
19 |
bear |
ATM XRO HBL CEN AIA |
86.55% |
20 |
rooster |
ATM FPH RYM SUM FMS |
83.50% |
21 |
AE |
PPH SML FPH THL CEN |
83.41% |
22 |
Yoda |
ATM NTL THL BLT PIL |
82.73% |
23 |
waikare |
ATM FPH HLG PGW TIL |
82.62% |
24 |
Felonius |
NTL PPH HBL HLG MCK |
82.00% |
25 |
stef |
ATM FPH THL HBL BLT |
81.11% |
26 |
upstart |
PPH ERD XRO AIR IFT |
81.04% |
27 |
Haewai |
NTL PPH FPH THL CAV |
81.00% |
28 |
Pricey |
ATM PPH HBL CBL BLT |
77.66% |
29 |
Moose |
ATM PPH NZR LIC GXH |
77.58% |
30 |
Toucan22 |
ATM SCT ALF SUM PEB |
77.08% |
31 |
J3Y |
ATM HBL SCL CVT ANZ |
76.78% |
32 |
warthog |
ATM AIR IFT EBO AIA |
76.58% |
33 |
mask |
ATM SEK IFT MET NZR |
74.90% |
34 |
mfd |
ATM XRO AIR SKL BLT |
74.89% |
35 |
NZSilver |
ATM HBL CEN SUM TIL |
74.11% |
36 |
pak |
ATM NTL EVO SEA BLT |
73.08% |
37 |
Left Field |
ATM PPH FPH BLT PIL |
72.83% |
38 |
dela47 |
ATM THL AIR SUM BLT |
72.57% |
39 |
Rossimarnz |
ATM THL AIR SUM PIL |
72.34% |
40 |
ShandyNZ |
ATM SML RYM PEB BLT |
70.79% |
41 |
ras |
ATM AIR HBL SKC PLX |
68.55% |
42 |
Fiskerking |
PPH ERD FPH CEN TRA |
68.50% |
43 |
Kjula61 |
SML ERD FPH EBO WDT |
66.72% |
44 |
Antipodean |
NTL AIR RBD HBL NZR |
66.46% |
45 |
Rabbi |
ATM SUM EBO OGC ARV |
63.92% |
46 |
bullfrog |
ERD OIC TTK HBL PLX |
63.82% |
47 |
zs_cecil |
ATM XRO HBL PEB BLT |
62.61% |
48 |
Baa_Baa |
ATM PPH ARV PLX OHE |
62.31% |
49 |
Stones |
ATM ALF SPK ANZ FBU |
62.26% |
50 |
CodeRed |
ATM NZR SPG OGC ANZ |
60.25% |
51 |
Numbersman |
PPH THL AIR RYM FRE |
59.38% |
52 |
jimbo |
SML AIR HBL SEK IFT |
58.99% |
53 |
JBmurc |
NTL THL PGW NZO OGC |
58.78% |
54 |
S Elder |
PPH FPH THL SUM CVT |
58.60% |
55 |
Harley |
ATM THL MCK CBL PIL |
57.61% |
56 |
Deecimal |
PPH NZK FPH CEN EVO |
57.08% |
57 |
Rust |
OIC SCT FPH PGW CNU |
56.56% |
57 |
First NZ Capital |
SML XRO FPH CEN TGH |
55.27% |
58 |
Cool Bear |
NTL HBL PGW ARG AIA |
54.42% |
59 |
Grunta |
ATM FPH STU PEB SLI |
52.40% |
60 |
Jantar |
NWF THL AIR HLG IFT |
51.62% |
61 |
iceman |
PPH THL HLG SAN TRA |
51.29% |
62 |
drrcd |
NTL SML IFT EVO PIL |
51.10% |
63 |
Ratkin |
ATM EBO RAK RBC SEA |
51.03% |
64 |
Pjai |
FPH THL AIR HBL MFT |
50.80% |
65 |
biker |
ATM CEN TRA RBC PEB |
50.62% |
66 |
ben28 |
PPH FPH MFT CEN AIA |
50.29% |
67 |
Ruaboy |
SML HBL ALF SKL MVT |
49.94% |
68 |
MAGA! |
NTL TPW MFT FRE STU |
49.86% |
68 |
Hamilton Hindin Greene |
OIC FPH RYM GNE CNU |
48.73% |
69 |
Acegolfer |
PPH THL HBL ARV STU |
47.36% |
70 |
horus1 |
ATM CVT TLT TRA PIL |
46.56% |
71 |
blockhead |
FPH THL HBL SCL ZEL |
46.39% |
72 |
Risin Vortex |
PPH RBD CDI IFT ARV |
46.30% |
73 |
Lola |
SML GTK ALF FMS OHE |
43.72% |
74 |
ace5715 |
THL AIR HBL HLG SUM |
43.32% |
75 |
Federer |
FPH THL AIR HBL TGH |
43.11% |
76 |
Bum_Burglar |
NWF AIR HBL RYM CVT |
42.95% |
77 |
The hound |
THL AIR SCL HLG SUM |
42.85% |
78 |
Mission |
ATM HBL GXH MOA PLX |
42.85% |
79 |
PHuljich |
PPH FPH EBO CVT BGP |
42.17% |
80 |
Eagle |
ATM CVT TIL SEA OHE |
41.93% |
81 |
lac |
THL RBD SEK RYM SUM |
41.29% |
82 |
spmcg |
FPH THL HBL SUM AIA |
40.62% |
83 |
McGinty |
ATM HLG TRA SLI PIL |
40.21% |
84 |
Muncha |
SML SCL MFT NZR TRA |
40.01% |
85 |
kappa |
SCT THL ALF SAN TRA |
39.64% |
85 |
Craigs Investment Partners |
GTK RBD MFT CEN FSF |
38.81% |
86 |
Lawnmower man |
THL AIR HBL HLG TRA |
38.70% |
87 |
Tongster |
PPH HBL SUM MCK WHS |
38.06% |
88 |
Brucey09 |
PPH ALF MFT NZR AFT |
37.85% |
89 |
Nasi Goreng |
SML AIR POT FSF GXH |
37.75% |
90 |
Jaa |
GTK FPH THL TRA GEO |
36.84% |
91 |
JoshuaTree |
GTK NWF FPH EVO CGL |
36.65% |
92 |
captainigloo |
FPH HBL SCL SUM AIA |
36.04% |
93 |
KJ |
THL AIR HBL SUM TRA |
35.67% |
94 |
crabs |
FPH HBL ALF PGW LIC |
35.01% |
95 |
RMVonStock |
MMH ALF EUT MFT CEN |
34.97% |
96 |
Duveldog |
FPH DGL MGL SKL IKE |
34.95% |
97 |
slimshadow |
SML AIR ZEL STU SCY |
34.90% |
98 |
MCCSA767 |
PPH ERD ARV EVO BLT |
34.73% |
98 |
Hobson Wealth Management |
FPH RBD TPW MFT VGL |
34.54% |
99 |
Timid |
THL HBL PGW SUM TWR |
34.08% |
100 |
taybay0404 |
SML ALF RYM AIA MOA |
33.98% |
101 |
james108 |
OIC RBD IFT MHJ EVO |
33.61% |
102 |
jumbo |
SCT HBL IFT SUM NZR |
33.13% |
103 |
Lewylewylewy |
THL RBD POT EBO NZR |
33.02% |
104 |
MAG |
THL POT RYM SUM MCY |
32.82% |
105 |
BAFFLED |
AIR HBL POT IFT FSF |
32.78% |
106 |
bung5 |
TTK AIR KMD CNU EVO |
32.10% |
107 |
shasta |
XRO THL IFT NZX RBC |
31.27% |
108 |
thestg |
AIR SCL IFT CEN EBO |
31.18% |
109 |
youngatheart |
NTL PPH CGL BLT PIL |
31.15% |
110 |
Fiasco |
SML SUM CNU AIA TIL |
30.95% |
111 |
percy |
THL ALF HLG MCK TRA |
30.50% |
112 |
Tim23 |
NWF FPH NZO AIA AFT |
30.31% |
113 |
Harrison |
NZK FPH SKC FSF EVO |
30.12% |
114 |
forest |
THL ALF SAN SKL SDL |
29.40% |
115 |
newtrader |
FPH AIR IFT EBO BGP |
29.37% |
116 |
Kelvin |
AIR RBD HLG SUM TIL |
29.11% |
117 |
Patrick |
RBD HBL SAN EBO VHP |
28.81% |
118 |
Penny |
SML POT EBO MVN RBC |
28.27% |
119 |
Whemthat |
GTK FPH VGL TIL EVO |
27.78% |
120 |
littletramp |
GTK SCT ABA VGL MPG |
27.74% |
121 |
lee |
THL HBL CEN CVT TIL |
27.28% |
122 |
exactchange |
XRO HBL IFT ARV STU |
27.12% |
123 |
clips |
AIR HBL SUM EBO AIA |
26.89% |
124 |
vici |
GTK RYM EBO MHJ TIL |
26.86% |
125 |
Saint |
THL AIR HLG TRA EVO |
25.65% |
126 |
Way Over The Hill |
SCT HBL CNU AIA WBC |
25.38% |
127 |
Vaygor1 |
ALF RYM CDI SUM AIA |
25.12% |
127 |
Forsyth Barr |
FPH THL IFT CBL EVO |
24.49% |
128 |
gmatt |
NTL THL RBC CAV BLT |
24.31% |
129 |
ari |
SCT FPH POT RBC SEA |
23.91% |
130 |
Big Blind |
AIR SCL IFT FRE EVO |
23.37% |
131 |
Crackity |
NWF NZO NZX NZR NPT |
23.02% |
132 |
Jay |
AIR HLG SUM EBO TIL |
22.81% |
133 |
S Club5 |
SCL SKL SUM SPN SKC |
22.34% |
134 |
Hamish |
FPH IFT SKC AIA MHJ |
22.18% |
135 |
Snoopy |
RBD SKL CEN SKC SPK |
21.95% |
136 |
Graham |
HBL DGL VHP ARG TIL |
21.34% |
137 |
Bilbo |
PPH GTK ARV SLI BLT |
21.04% |
138 |
EJK |
TTK THL IFT TGH BLT |
21.00% |
138 |
JBWere |
FPH MFT CEN FSF EVO |
20.91% |
139 |
Taijon |
SCT FPH NZO RBC FBU |
20.80% |
140 |
h2so4 |
RBD ALF MCK MET AWF |
20.65% |
141 |
buddha beer |
AIR ALF RYM IFT PLX |
19.35% |
142 |
garfy |
THL AIR SCL ARV PIL |
19.07% |
142 |
MSL Capital Markets |
SML HBL AIA GXH PLX |
18.97% |
143 |
troyvdh |
RYM CEN SUM PFI MET |
18.12% |
144 |
greater fool |
POT CDI NZO MCK ANZ |
18.07% |
145 |
kiwichick |
AIR POT AIA WBC ANZ |
17.75% |
146 |
Stevevai1983 |
RYM IFT SUM EBO ARV |
17.53% |
147 |
Sun Lee |
FPH CEN TWR CVT EVO |
17.53% |
148 |
TFA |
PPH HBL MET MPG OHE |
17.35% |
149 |
duncan22 |
GTK XRO TIL CBL OHE |
17.23% |
150 |
Noodles |
THL RBD TRA AWF CBL |
16.93% |
151 |
Mangom |
FPH TPW NZR AIA FBU |
16.88% |
152 |
Mshierlaw |
TPW IFT SUM EBO STU |
16.78% |
153 |
Crow |
GTK SUM MEL ARV MPG |
16.57% |
154 |
Deej5 |
HBL VHP ARG PFI AIA |
16.42% |
155 |
Teeps |
SCL RYM SUM AIA CBL |
16.17% |
156 |
Johndes |
HBL MEL FSF SPK ARV |
15.95% |
157 |
Major von Tempsky |
GFL HLG MFT SPK FBU |
15.72% |
158 |
minerbarejet |
THL GMT IPL VCT PEB |
15.25% |
159 |
hcpp88 |
AIR ZEL CVT AIA ANZ |
14.32% |
160 |
DarkHorse |
THL HLG TRA SCY EVO |
13.89% |
161 |
klid |
ALF IFT MCK TRA SCY |
13.79% |
162 |
Farcanal |
FPH IFT NZR ANZ PEB |
13.61% |
163 |
lissica |
RYM IFT MFT FRE GXH |
13.05% |
164 |
bull.... |
HBL SCL FSF NZR CAV |
12.35% |
165 |
pedro.nz |
XRO MFT SUM AIA BLT |
11.94% |
166 |
ABhatnagar |
PPH RYM TGH CAV MPG |
11.89% |
167 |
777 |
GMT PCT ARG PFI KPG |
10.99% |
168 |
Alz99 |
AIR CEN PCT ARV PEB |
10.97% |
169 |
amalgam |
THL ALF FLI TRA PIL |
10.60% |
170 |
Rob Optimist |
FPH IFT CVT CBL PEB |
10.28% |
171 |
silverblizzard888 |
PPH RBD RBC CAV BLT |
10.14% |
172 |
WLDSTH |
MFT MCK TGG AIA TME |
9.97% |
173 |
SAM2103 |
RYM MFT EBO VHP BFW |
9.68% |
174 |
mani99 |
PGW MCK AWK KPG STU |
9.53% |
175 |
JayRiggs |
HLG IFT VGL TIL TGH |
9.31% |
176 |
Balloon |
THL ABA RAK TIL MOA |
9.23% |
177 |
whitewatergeo |
XRO SKL SPK TME BLT |
9.00% |
178 |
dinkv |
RBD IFT AWK BGP FBU |
8.93% |
179 |
Xerof |
AIR HBL IFT PEB OHE |
6.93% |
180 |
but-what-do-i-know |
SCL HLG MEL ARV BLT |
6.81% |
181 |
Huxley |
HLG KMD IFT ANZ BLT |
6.60% |
182 |
Toulouse - Luzern |
SCL MCK AIA SDL CBL |
6.41% |
183 |
clip |
SCL ALF AIA CBL MPG |
5.47% |
184 |
hogie |
FPH SKC NZR FBU BFW |
5.33% |
185 |
Grimy |
AIR PGW CEN TGH BLT |
5.15% |
186 |
Pierre |
THL AIR TIL PEB BLT |
3.76% |
187 |
beetills |
HBL CDI ANZ RBC CGL |
3.20% |
188 |
Scottjamesy |
THL AIR SUM BLT PIL |
2.47% |
189 |
Ewnet13 |
HBL GNE NZO BFW CGF |
2.12% |
190 |
airedale |
MEL SPK MHJ TIL TGH |
2.11% |
191 |
angrytoenail |
XRO MFT SPK PEB BLT |
2.09% |
192 |
reacher |
PPH AIR SLI OHE PIL |
1.95% |
193 |
riggers |
SCL PGW TGG AIA VIL |
1.20% |
194 |
BlackPeter |
HBL MCK TRA STU MPG |
0.83% |
195 |
Paper Tiger |
OIC FRE TRA BLT PIL |
0.49% |
195 |
Vulcan Capital |
NZK TRU TRA PEB PIL |
0.34% |
196 |
Placemakers |
THL FSF NZR MOA PLX |
-0.71% |
197 |
Southern_Belle |
HBL ALF TIL SEA PIL |
-0.98% |
198 |
mikeybycrikey |
XRO AIR RBC PLX OHE |
-1.29% |
199 |
Rokko |
THL IKE CNU PEB BLT |
-2.42% |
200 |
Janner |
SKL WDT ARV TRA CAV |
-5.05% |
201 |
SCOTTY |
GFL FLI NZR CGL SLI |
-7.31% |
202 |
golden city |
THL NZR PEB CGL CAV |
-7.90% |
203 |
Gonzo |
HBL EBO STU CAV PIL |
-10.63% |
204 |
watford |
MEL ARV TRA TGH BLT |
-12.28% |
205 |
Jotal |
SCL BGP TGH EVO BLT |
-12.41% |
206 |
QOH |
PGW SUM SPK BLT PIL |
-13.90% |
207 |
Dogs of the NZX |
AIR AFT EVO PEB PLX |
-13.91% |
208 |
RGR367 |
XRO RAK PEB OHE BLT |
-15.25% |
209 |
Sure Thing |
THL SEA PEB MPG PLX |
-17.48% |
210 |
davflaws |
ALF NZR PEB PLX BLT |
-19.12% |
211 |
Balance |
NZO SEA PEB CGL VIL |
-30.43% |
212 |
investor420 |
AFT EVO PEB GEO OHE |
-32.17% |
Well done one and all.
ありがとうございました
Paper Tiger
Last edited by Snow Leopard; 29-12-2017 at 09:33 PM.
Reason: a little font tweaking
om mani peme hum
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29-12-2017, 09:32 PM
#247
That was the year that was
Gains and Losses for each chosen share.
Rank |
Stock |
% Gain |
1 |
SKO |
655.17% |
2 |
ATM |
287.98% |
3 |
NTL |
183.33% |
4 |
PPH |
132.96% |
5 |
SML |
128.57% |
6 |
ERD |
123.75% |
7 |
OIC |
112.92% |
8 |
GTK |
91.31% |
9 |
TTK |
88.37% |
10 |
NZK |
82.68% |
11 |
NWF |
81.07% |
12 |
XRO |
72.32% |
13 |
SCT |
67.57% |
14 |
FPH |
67.08% |
15 |
THL |
66.20% |
16 |
MMH |
54.71% |
17 |
AIR |
50.46% |
18 |
RBD |
45.71% |
19 |
HBL |
45.67% |
20 |
SEK |
44.58% |
21 |
DGL |
43.35% |
22 |
SCL |
43.33% |
23 |
ALF |
41.83% |
24 |
GFL |
37.52% |
25 |
HLG |
34.70% |
26 |
KMD |
34.26% |
27 |
POT |
31.88% |
28 |
MGL |
31.58% |
29 |
EUT |
31.50% |
30 |
RYM |
30.36% |
31 |
TPW |
30.36% |
32 |
CDI |
29.28% |
33 |
PGW |
28.26% |
34 |
GNE |
26.34% |
35 |
SAN |
26.13% |
36 |
IFT |
25.68% |
37 |
SKL |
25.06% |
38 |
MFT |
24.59% |
39 |
CEN |
22.24% |
40 |
ABA |
20.28% |
41 |
SUM |
19.58% |
42 |
MEL |
19.53% |
43 |
FRE |
16.94% |
44 |
TRU |
16.67% |
45 |
NZO |
16.10% |
46 |
GMT |
16.09% |
47 |
MCY |
16.09% |
48 |
PCT |
15.88% |
49 |
EBO |
14.19% |
50 |
NZX |
14.16% |
51 |
IPL |
13.49% |
52 |
SPN |
13.49% |
53 |
MCK |
13.33% |
54 |
FMS |
12.50% |
55 |
VHP |
12.33% |
56 |
VCT |
12.04% |
57 |
FLI |
11.04% |
58 |
TWR |
10.70% |
59 |
ARG |
10.25% |
60 |
SKC |
10.23% |
61 |
FSF |
10.20% |
62 |
ZEL |
9.68% |
63 |
PFI |
9.31% |
64 |
MET |
9.11% |
65 |
MVT |
8.57% |
66 |
AWK |
8.53% |
67 |
IKE |
7.69% |
68 |
CVT |
7.19% |
69 |
NZR |
7.13% |
70 |
CNU |
6.94% |
71 |
SPK |
6.50% |
72 |
SPG |
6.41% |
73 |
VGL |
4.96% |
74 |
TGG |
4.87% |
75 |
AIA |
4.56% |
76 |
TLT |
3.67% |
77 |
KPG |
3.41% |
78 |
MHJ |
3.32% |
79 |
TME |
2.50% |
80 |
WBC |
2.13% |
81 |
WDT |
0.00% |
82 |
OGC |
0.00% |
83 |
RAK |
0.00% |
84 |
ANZ |
-0.27% |
85 |
ARV |
-2.15% |
86 |
NPT |
-3.35% |
87 |
TRA |
-3.55% |
88 |
TIL |
-4.91% |
89 |
STU |
-5.90% |
90 |
AWF |
-6.74% |
91 |
LIC |
-7.82% |
92 |
SCY |
-8.32% |
93 |
BGP |
-10.56% |
94 |
MVN |
-11.29% |
95 |
SDL |
-12.22% |
96 |
TGH |
-13.87% |
97 |
CBL |
-16.96% |
98 |
AFT |
-17.27% |
99 |
EVO |
-19.56% |
100 |
WHS |
-21.24% |
101 |
RBC |
-22.00% |
102 |
FBU |
-24.74% |
103 |
SEA |
-25.00% |
104 |
PEB |
-31.58% |
105 |
GXH |
-32.35% |
106 |
BFW |
-33.08% |
107 |
MOA |
-35.44% |
108 |
CGL |
-36.67% |
109 |
GEO |
-36.84% |
110 |
CGF |
-44.44% |
111 |
CAV |
-44.59% |
112 |
MPG |
-45.41% |
113 |
PLX |
-51.61% |
114 |
SLI |
-55.56% |
115 |
OHE |
-55.61% |
116 |
BLT |
-61.36% |
117 |
PIL |
-62.50% |
118 |
VIL |
-75.00% |
Last edited by Snow Leopard; 29-12-2017 at 09:34 PM.
Reason: more tweaking
om mani peme hum
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30-12-2017, 09:20 AM
#248
Fascinating to see STU, FBU and MPG all make the sick puppies list in the midst of a building boom and a booming sharemarket. Worse, this is not isolated to 2017 by any means. Construction / Building sector returns over the years have been very poor relative to the market. Not sure why so many managed funds continued with their persistent approach to an approximate market weighting to this sector, go figure ?
Not quite sure what to make of this other than to steer well clear of that sector for the foreseeable future.
Last edited by Beagle; 30-12-2017 at 09:30 AM.
Ecclesiastes 11:2: Divide your portion to seven, or even to eight, for you do not know what misfortune may occur on the earth.
Ben Graham - In the short run the market is a voting machine but in the long run the market is a weighing machine
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31-12-2017, 11:16 AM
#249
Originally Posted by Beagle
Congrats to all 130 participants who beat the NZX50, well done, give yourself a pat on the back and the hound would like to extend sympathy to his fellow Beagle Snoopy who only just missed the cut.
The NZX50 started the year 6974 (Wed 4th January) and closed at 8398 (Fri Dec 29th). That makes a gain of 20.4%. Note that the NZX50 is an accumulation index that includes dividends so it is a fitting yardstick for the stock picking contest that also includes dividends. My competition score was 21.95%. So that means I have beaten the index by 1.5 percentage points. I am absolutely chuffed at this result. Why? Because my value based strategy should cause me to under perform the index by a couple of percentage points in high growth years, but outperform the index by 5 or 6 percentage points in not so good years. So with such a good year on the market my expectation was for an 18.5% gain, not 22%.
Very pleasing from my perspective as well because as some competitors who have done well are inclined to forget at competition end, successful investing is all about getting the best result you can for the risk you want to take. At competition end, the risk by definition is zero because the competition is done and dusted. But at the start of the year everyone had a different risk they were willing to take and I wasn't willing to take any big gambles. The competition was a good approximation to my actual portfolio so all gains I made were real. So to get an above average result using my low risk strategy was just brilliant. Thanks very much for PT for rescuing the contest, and was glad to hear that klid was Ok!
SNOOPY
Last edited by Snoopy; 31-12-2017 at 11:25 AM.
Watch out for the most persistent and dangerous version of Covid-19: B.S.24/7
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31-12-2017, 12:17 PM
#250
Okay. So pure speculative stocks won't cut it for a contest. Lesson learned so entered only 3 speculations for the next one
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