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    good result... tho yet to read into details...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny1 View Post
    Yep not bad! On track for possibly their second best full year result.
    Direct service up to 5 times a week to Taipei from this November was a bit of a surprise. All the talk has been on Obama coming to help launch flights to Chicago
    Yes second half outlook better than I expected and yes you are right mate, they're starting the 777-200 replacement program earlier than I expected in 2022. Have to re-gauge my expectations regarding special dividends in the early 2020's. That said their new liquidity policy looks like they trying to drive their balance sheet a little harder which is possibly a good thing. Hope they get some thoroughly deserved absolutely whopping discounts on the Trent engines on those A350's if they choose to go that way,
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    Quote Originally Posted by SylvesterCat View Post
    Bit harsh winner. They're trying to tell the story of how they've offset fuel cost increases; they're not trying to excuse it. Hence my comment on "self-help".
    Still a gross misrepresentation - so early in the presentation

    And isn’t that 27% in the circle pretty big - all you see really

    Beagle says creative ....I say misleading and disappointing

    Even worse than Sky City excluding any above average winnings by the high rollers
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    Is it worth reading past Page 5
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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Still a gross misrepresentation - so early in the presentation

    And isn’t that 27% in the circle pretty big - all you see really

    Beagle says creative ....I say misleading and disappointing

    Even worse than Sky City excluding any above average winnings by the high rollers
    maybe air just want to show how good their operation and cost control is? excluding things that they cannot control?

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Is it worth reading past Page 5
    Yes mate. No point getting one's tail in a spin over how they talk about jet fuel price differences, in my opinion. Get your snout into the rest of it and let us know your thoughts. Pretty resilient result I reckon but that said I'm not sure how they'll cope in FY19 when they don't have such attractive fuel hedging in place ?
    Last edited by Beagle; 22-02-2018 at 09:38 AM.
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    read page 21

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Still a gross misrepresentation - so early in the presentation

    And isn’t that 27% in the circle pretty big - all you see really

    Beagle says creative ....I say misleading and disappointing

    Even worse than Sky City excluding any above average winnings by the high rollers
    We can't have any of those fat cats losing any of their bonuses for non performance winner, creative enough to fool the punters aye.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beagle View Post
    Yes mate. No point getting one's tail in a spin over how they talk about jet fuel price differences, in my opinion. Get your snout into the rest of it and let us know your thoughts. Pretty resilient result I reckon.
    Just hate companies, esp those who tout high levels of governance and transparencies, who misrepresent things so badly...they could have just used Page 9 ...more honest

    If they had just said fuel costs were up a lot but we managed to recover most of that from blah blah all the good ...but touting a 27% increase in earnings come on.

    Sent my feelings to Luxon anyway ...but he probably won’t listen

    Won’t say anymore
    Last edited by winner69; 22-02-2018 at 09:49 AM.
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