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08-03-2018, 10:19 AM
#1161
Actually looking around my local supermarket,free range products seem to be a massive growth market,at least Tegel are aware of this and going forward should reap the rewards.So yes not a good year but perhaps a glimmer of hope for next year
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08-03-2018, 10:24 AM
#1162
Originally Posted by steveb
Actually looking around my local supermarket,free range products seem to be a massive growth market,at least Tegel are aware of this and going forward should reap the rewards.So yes not a good year but perhaps a glimmer of hope for next year
Bought some Turks free range drumsticks the other day at $4.99 kg - used to be $7.99 a year ago.
Wouldn't be buying them again - small and not much meat vs usual chickens.
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08-03-2018, 10:30 AM
#1163
Member
The disguised the downgrade amongst the one offs... classic.
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08-03-2018, 10:35 AM
#1164
Originally Posted by JoeGrogan
The disguised the downgrade amongst the one offs... classic.
There's another cyclone on its way to N.Z....give them some more excuses if they fail to meet the lower guidance LOL
I'm sure they'll find some more one-off's next year.
Good companies make profits not excuses.
Ecclesiastes 11:2: Divide your portion to seven, or even to eight, for you do not know what misfortune may occur on the earth.
Ben Graham - In the short run the market is a voting machine but in the long run the market is a weighing machine
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08-03-2018, 10:47 AM
#1165
They are stuffed until the price cycle lifts whenever that will be.
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08-03-2018, 10:51 AM
#1166
In a separate incident, there was an ammonia leak at the New Plymouth plant which resulted in inventory losses.
I assume inventory losses means lots of dead chickens overcome by ammonia gas. Not a nice way to go I would have thought.
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08-03-2018, 11:25 AM
#1167
Originally Posted by biker
In a separate incident, there was an ammonia leak at the New Plymouth plant which resulted in inventory losses.
I assume inventory losses means lots of dead chickens overcome by ammonia gas. Not a nice way to go I would have thought.
More likely a freezer/chiller problem. Loss of frozen or chilled inventory ?
Last edited by RTM; 08-03-2018 at 11:26 AM.
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08-03-2018, 11:56 AM
#1168
Originally Posted by JoeGrogan
The disguised the downgrade amongst the one offs... classic.
This is the fourth (yes, 4th) downgrade according to the NBR - I have lost count myself.
As for disguising, this company thinks it is very smart in trying to hoodwink the market with all kinds of trickery:
1. Referring F17 last year's results as being for "53 weeks" vs 52 weeks in F18 consistently as one excuse for profit drop,
2. Adjusting the F17 results down to 52 weeks so that NPAT is $31.7m vs $34.2m and EBITDA $72m vs $75.6m.
A simple calculation shows the adjusted $31.7m should be $33.6m and EBITDA $74.2m vs $72m.
The NPAT expected in F18 of $25m to $27m = 20% to 26% Downgrade!
This is what the company said at its AGM in June last year :
"So looking at FY18, based on the current market conditions, holding domestic market share, with continued domestic consumption growth of 4-5% and continuing exports,
overall, we expect to deliver an increase in underlying EBITDA from the level at FY17."
"Tegel is a growing business, the company is in great shape and we are excited about our future prospects."
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08-03-2018, 12:40 PM
#1169
To quote the Colonel of chicken: FCK
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08-03-2018, 12:47 PM
#1170
Originally Posted by Xerof
To quote the Colonel of chicken: FCK
Market cap of $338m so still trading on a forward PER of 12.5X to 13.5X.
Realistically should be on PER now of 10 times (max).
75 cents is where it is heading, me thinks.
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