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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    I have a problem with such reports. They don't tell the net after mgt / admin fees % returns and also don't tell the 'cumulative' returns for those funds ; especially since inception. Again I will wave the Warren Buffet flag. These funds will not beat the index return in the long long term because like at the casino, the odds are against them. Those that do beat the odds are just lucky in the short term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBQ View Post
    I have a problem with such reports. They don't tell the net after mgt / admin fees % returns and also don't tell the 'cumulative' returns for those funds ; especially since inception. Again I will wave the Warren Buffet flag. These funds will not beat the index return in the long long term because like at the casino, the odds are against them. Those that do beat the odds are just lucky in the short term.
    The total returns are after fees and before tax, so the fees are accounted for. I largely agree with your active/passive stance, but do be aware that at least some of the options presented are in fact passive funds, such as simplicity who I have my kiwi saver with. I expect to match the index minus the 0.3% fees, which is low in an NZ context but I admit still high internationally. Hopefully fees will continue to fall with increasing scale.

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