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19-11-2019, 07:16 PM
#2921
Originally Posted by Aaron
This appeals to a left leaning xenophobe like me.
https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/natio...cid=spartanntp
Considering the national interest before selling nz assets to the world, could be the pathway towards isolationism and away from globalisation. Uncomfortable for those that believe private individuals will make a better decision than a govt appointed organisation. Good or bad who knows.
This lot is very good at disguising things aren't they. Look tough not wanting to sell ports and failing media companies into overseas ownership, a Government that has allowed more land being sold to foreigners than any other Government in our history. Pathetic.
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19-11-2019, 07:25 PM
#2922
I don't see Ms Ardern as power hungry, though she pretty much fits most of the other above epithets IMO. I do think she was thrust into a position she was unprepared for, and seemingly wasted her years in opposition doing not much at all.
But there she was in the spotlight and voters loved her. Probably enough still do to give Labour a decent shot at leading the next government. So she has the Labour powerbrokers keeping her front and centre, whether she wants to be there or not. Have to say she doesn't look too happy at times, and makes a hash of too many media interviews. Might be very happy to go back to opposition.
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19-11-2019, 07:31 PM
#2923
Originally Posted by iceman
This lot is very good at disguising things aren't they. Look tough not wanting to sell ports and failing media companies into overseas ownership, a Government that has allowed more land being sold to foreigners than any other Government in our history. Pathetic.
You'd better verify your statement with facts otherwise you'll be the adjective yourself just like the trump like national party whose modus operandi is say something three times and it becomes gospel. Have you really been sucked in, you at least GIVE the impression of an independent thinker.
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19-11-2019, 11:07 PM
#2924
Originally Posted by Aaron
This appeals to a left leaning xenophobe like me.
https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/natio...cid=spartanntp
Considering the national interest before selling nz assets to the world, could be the pathway towards isolationism and away from globalisation. Uncomfortable for those that believe private individuals will make a better decision than a govt appointed organisation. Good or bad who knows.
This is fantastic for NZ and seems to be overlooked by many, i rejoice at it.
"Announcing the move, associate Finance Minister David Parker said the new powers would include:
- Protections for ports, airports and communication infrastructre
- A "call-in" power over sale of strategic assets like military technology firms and defence suppliers
- Extend sustainability and water quality considerations to water bottling investment
- The tests could also apply to "significant media entities"
- Overseas investments in farmland must show substantial benefit to New Zealand
- Lift corporate penalties for non-compliance from $300,000 to $10 million
He said the moves were consistent with global best practice and would apply to all overseas investors, irrespective of where they come from."
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20-11-2019, 08:07 AM
#2925
Originally Posted by justakiwi
Which has absolutely nothing to do with our “discussion” about bullying people.
At your request, shifting the narrative away from 'body shaming & bullying' of the grubby one as to why she is currently hopelessly lost in a fog of indecisiveness and contradictions - the star dust has been replaced by dirt dust from the u-turns and hypocrisy she has presided over.
The turning point for most was when she lied about her knowledge of the sexual assaults on females by one of her staff - poor thing did not know what to do so decided to lie!
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/polit...lt-victim.html
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20-11-2019, 08:13 AM
#2926
Originally Posted by iceman
This lot is very good at disguising things aren't they. Look tough not wanting to sell ports and failing media companies into overseas ownership, a Government that has allowed more land being sold to foreigners than any other Government in our history. Pathetic.
Originally Posted by Joshuatree
You'd better verify your statement with facts otherwise you'll be the adjective yourself just like the trump like national party whose modus operandi is say something three times and it becomes gospel. Have you really been sucked in, you at least GIVE the impression of an independent thinker.
https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2019/10/r...er_labour.html
"Since the government was formed, the Overseas Investment Office (OIO) has approved more than $2.3 billion of forestry-related land sales – about 31,000 hectares of it previously in New Zealand hands.
Nearly $5b of sensitive land has changed hands through the OIO since the government was formed."
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All you have to do with this pathetic government is to mutter the magic words - forestry and 1 billion trees - and the door opens to as much land as you want to buy in NZ.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/far...foreign-buyers
Gotto show that they are keeping to one of their promises, see?
Last edited by Balance; 20-11-2019 at 08:15 AM.
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20-11-2019, 09:05 AM
#2927
Originally Posted by Balance
At your request, shifting the narrative away from 'body shaming & bullying' of the grubby one as to why she is currently hopelessly lost in a fog of indecisiveness and contradictions - the star dust has been replaced by dirt dust from the u-turns and hypocrisy she has presided over.
The turning point for most was when she lied about her knowledge of the sexual assaults on females by one of her staff - poor thing did not know what to do so decided to lie!
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/polit...lt-victim.html
To be fair not our only leader who has done u-turns, some of greatest have also succumbed to a change of direction. A quick google search revealed one bad week for a former legend.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=11661479
OK that was my last post on a political thread. It would seem no matter what goes on a negative spin can be put on it. If I recall correctly was it Labour that stopped foreigners buying residential property? not on the same level of square metres as forestry blocks I will admit.
I am sounding like a xenophobic isolationist much like Trump and his supporters in this regard. Confusing.
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20-11-2019, 09:34 AM
#2928
Thanks for the OIO info Balance. They've basically opened up the floodgates to anyone wanting to buy land as long as they promise to help Shane get his billion trees (maybe even a small donation to the slush fund ?). A lot of it being concerted from productive farmland. Very short sighted. Wasn't it Muldoon who ordered all the vines pulled out in the early days of Marlborough viticulture as he though it was better used for sheep farming (before my time in NZ but do recall hearing that story). What's happening now is of similar stupidity.
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20-11-2019, 10:50 AM
#2929
Originally Posted by iceman
Thanks for the OIO info Balance. They've basically opened up the floodgates to anyone wanting to buy land as long as they promise to help Shane get his billion trees (maybe even a small donation to the slush fund ?). A lot of it being concerted from productive farmland. Very short sighted. Wasn't it Muldoon who ordered all the vines pulled out in the early days of Marlborough viticulture as he though it was better used for sheep farming (before my time in NZ but do recall hearing that story). What's happening now is of similar stupidity.
I doubt that was the case. There was a time when there was wholesale replanting of Muller Thurgau vineyards with Sauvignon Blanc, a great decision, as it turned out.
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20-11-2019, 03:49 PM
#2930
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...donations-mess
So much for the grubby one promising 'open and transparent' government - no condemnation or comment regarding the serial 'donations' offender NZ First.
More critical to stay in power, principles are dispensable and only to con the electorate.
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