Labour / NZ First Government

[fungus pudding]

Two wongs make one white according to NZF and Winston.

Except he said they don't.

"A high-profile New Zealand lawmaker was accused of racism on Monday after making what he called a “joke” at the expense of Asians as he railed against Chinese investment in the country’s farming sector.
New Zealand First party leader Winston Peters told his campaign launch in Auckland on Sunday that he wanted to tighten restrictions on foreign ownership, telling the audience: “As they say in Beijing, two Wongs don’t make a white.”

[winner69]

Good to see zillions going to be spent on infrastructure things and schools

[iceman]

Good to see zillions going to be spent on infrastructure things and schools

Absolutely. Well overdue and money well spent. Good on Robinson for deciding on such a wise infrastructure spend.

[Balance]

Good to see zillions going to be spent on infrastructure things and schools

May just have to vote NZ First for the first time in my life if they push through the shift of POA to Northport.

Seriously.

[fungus pudding]

Latest poll suggests National would romp in in next election if Simon Bridges has the good sense to voluntarily stand down, as did Little, with no fuss. A more popular leader would bury Labour. If Bridges played his cards right he could name his preferred portfolio and be the minister of something rather than the leader of the opposition. He's bright and capable, but just not P.M. material.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/117...led-government

[Baa_Baa]

Latest poll suggests National would romp in in next election if Simon Bridges has the good sense to voluntarily stand down, as did Little, with no fuss. A more popular leader would bury Labour. If Bridges played his cards right he could name his preferred portfolio and be the minister of something rather than the leader of the opposition. He's bright and capable, but just not P.M. material.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/117...led-government

Who is the "more popular leader" to replace Bridges? That's the problem.

If the poll has any merit, it's saying that popularist stardust isn't enough to carry the coalition to another election win, certainly not enough for Labour to govern alone (by far). So as MMP always does, it will be about the minor parties share of the votes on election day and who THEY choose to associate with.

MMP sucks, it is not representative of the will of the people. It is a poorly designed fabrication that hands power to the minority parties that then choose whom they will align with and therein form a government. MMP is broken and NZ government is the worse for it.

[fungus pudding]

Who is the "more popular leader" to replace Bridges? That's the problem.

If the poll has any merit, it's saying that popularist stardust isn't enough to carry the coalition to another election win, certainly not enough for Labour to govern alone (by far). So as MMP always does, it will be about the minor parties share of the votes on election day and who THEY choose to associate with.

MMP sucks, it is not representative of the will of the people. It is a poorly designed fabrication that hands power to the minority parties that then choose whom they will align with and therein form a government. MMP is broken and NZ government is the worse for it.

New leader - Todd Muller? Mark Mitchell?

[BlackPeter]

MMP sucks, it is not representative of the will of the people. It is a poorly designed fabrication that hands power to the minority parties that then choose whom they will align with and therein form a government. MMP is broken and NZ government is the worse for it.

I dare to disagree. While no system is ideal - MMP offers of the election systems I am aware of pretty much the fairest deal to voters in terms of picking a representative parliament.

If you want to look at election systems which really suck, than look no further than the US or the UK. Both (mainly) FPP systems created monster governments which have nothing to do with the will of the people.

[fungus pudding]

I dare to disagree. While no system is ideal - MMP offers of the election systems I am aware of pretty much the fairest deal to voters in terms of picking a representative parliament.

If you want to look at election systems which really suck, than look no further than the US or the UK. Both (mainly) FPP systems created monster governments which have nothing to do with the will of the people.

Supplementary member was my choice. MMP gives to much power to parties who have just scrapped over the line. e.g. NZ First. I still shudder when I picture Peters on TV with 5% of the vote advising the nation who he had decided would be the govt.
At least under MMP the parties should sort out the coalition and go to the GG who could make the announcement.
Peters did it in the most arrogant way possible. Puke making. And surely a party should have to gain more than the minimum 5% before demanding the deputy PM role. MMP has room for improvement, although SMP would still be better IMO. Amen.

[jonu]

I dare to disagree. While no system is ideal - MMP offers of the election systems I am aware of pretty much the fairest deal to voters in terms of picking a representative parliament.

If you want to look at election systems which really suck, than look no further than the US or the UK. Both (mainly) FPP systems created monster governments which have nothing to do with the will of the people.

The Greens are pushing the Marxist notion of Citizen's Assembly. Where 100+ people are randomly selected and formulate policy for the government to implement. Which means of course that you can do away with elections, you just have an administration. Might as well call that administration the Communist Party of the People's Republic of .... (Fill in country name). Scary stuff.