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    totally expected if you dont know what the virus going to do how can any company predict earnings. be the last dividend paid for quite some time i imagine , dividend hunters are going to get severely burned
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    Yeah, I mentioned last week I expected they would withdraw guidance altogether. At some point very late this financial year you may see them come out and soften the market up for an overall loss in FY20, yes that's my updated view on this, they could lose more in 2H than they made in 1H).
    Chief Executive Officer Greg Foran says that it is increasingly clear that Covid-19 has created an unprecedented situation and it is difficult to predict future demand patterns.

    This obviously suggests this is worse than 9/11.
    It is an interesting coincidence that after the Govt Bailout of the airline after 9/11 senior staff took a 15% pay cut. AIR also lost thousands of staff then.
    All senior staff right across the airline earning more than $150K should do the right thing and accept a 15% pay cut until this thing is over. Extending a pay freeze when head office senior staff are so incredible generously paid is a weak response. At least Greg Foran did the right thing, good on him. Others should follow his example.

    Absolutely ridiculous paying out the dividend in the current circumstances. Sends the wrong message to staff at AIR. Almost everyone, (except say workers earning less than $100K) should be taking a 15% haircut to their pay in the circumstances including shareholders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bull.... View Post
    totally expected if you dont know what the virus going to do how can any company predict earnings. be the last dividend paid for quite some time i imagine , dividend hunters are going to get severely burned
    Agree, it is the prudent thing to do. They have reigned in quite a few services, and a lot of unknowns.

    Maybe they should instead just fly freight across the Tasman.....those Ozzies are pretty short of toilet paper and must be full of shi…...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sideshow Bob View Post
    Agree, it is the prudent thing to do. They have reigned in quite a few services, and a lot of unknowns.

    Maybe they should instead just fly freight across the Tasman.....those Ozzies are pretty short of toilet paper and must be full of shi…...
    if lots more countries go into lock down who they going to fly too?
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    Question. "How can you achieve a very, very large dividend % return"? Answer. "Buy a share that is normally returning a very good dividend, but buy it when it has become leprous due to temporary conditions that will return to normal in due course." Dividend hunters can see the long term gains outweigh the short term burn IMO.
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    totally expected if you dont know what the virus going to do how can any company predict earnings. be the last dividend paid for quite some time i imagine , dividend hunters are going to get severely burned
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    the cold hard facts are if you are a air shareholder your going to lose a lot of your investment in the months ahead. until a virus cure is found or some other thing works
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    Quote Originally Posted by BIRMANBOY View Post
    Question. "How can you achieve a very, very large dividend % return"? Answer. "Buy a share that is normally returning a very good dividend, but buy it when it has become leprous due to temporary conditions that will return to normal in due course." Dividend hunters can see the long term gains outweigh the short term burn IMO.
    how many years can you wait?
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    Last AR said there were 23,000 ‘investors’ with less than 5,000 shares

    Would hurt a lot if they stopped divie
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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Last AR said there were 23,000 ‘investors’ with less than 5,000 shares

    Would hurt a lot if they stopped divie
    alot of divdend people forget that air is a cyclical business and cyclical businesses are not generally reliable steady income stocks over the long term

    this reminds me of the finance sector people seduced by the high yield
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    A fair proportion of AIRs Exec huge bonus payment is tied to the AIR shareholder returns relative to a global airline index.

    So as long as the AIR shareholders don’t lose as much as shareholders of other airlines they might still get a bonus.
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