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06-05-2020, 05:13 PM
#7551
Originally Posted by winner69
Maybe he’s saying in a round about way that our PM Is one of the best political communicators on the planet.... and doesn’t like that
Maybe the Propaganda Section are having a hard job finding anything else currently positive arising from Labour's orchestrated 'missed the right time' Disaster and have the blinkers on with reality of the NOW
The next reporting presumably from Stats will make very dark reading & reporting indeed when effects of Lock Down come through, as if rising unemployment, permanent closures etc hitting the media are not enough prelude to what is impending.
Try telling "It was sound before ..." to those whose Jobs, Businesses etc have become deceased & well buried in the aftermath ...
IMO .. not sure whether today's effort is "Fake News" or "Flakey News" just to allow #1 Spinner to open her trap ..
Last edited by nztx; 06-05-2020 at 05:28 PM.
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06-05-2020, 05:23 PM
#7552
Member
Which country would you rather be living in right now? USA? Italy? Russia? China? UK? France? Brazil?
I thank my lucky stars I am living in NZ.
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06-05-2020, 06:23 PM
#7553
Member
Originally Posted by Bing
Which country would you rather be living in right now? USA? Italy? Russia? China? UK? France? Brazil?
I thank my lucky stars I am living in NZ.
I realise the question is rhetorical and intended to make us appreciate our situation relative to others, but I find them overly simplistic and defeatist... sure, almost everyone on this forum would prefer to be living in NZ at the moment... but shouldn't we be striving for the most optimal response to Covid, regardless of how poor or unfortunate other countries' responses have been?
My health and economic expectations of the NZ Government are very high - they have been blessed with an extremely favorable starting point by virtue of (for example) our geographic moat, low population density and lower proportion of older/vulnerable citizens.
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06-05-2020, 06:36 PM
#7554
I gather that those decrying Labour would rather have had National in place and kept all businesses open.
No lockdown:
Sweden death rate of 27.2 per 100,000 people (and still rising as of today)
Late lockdown:
Italy 45 per 100,000
Spain 51 per 100,000
USA: 21 and still climbing, lock-unlock-partial lock- free america and lets party, the virus is just a conspiracy...
Lockdown applied:
Denmark 8.5 per 100,000
Finland 4.35 per 100,000
Norway 4.03 per 100,000
Czech republic 2 per 100,000
Lockdown applied: geographic location and global news a benefit to the country
NZ 0.4 per 100,000
So if National was in power and would have been happy to keep businesses open like USA, Sweden, it says a lot about them and the people who would support that attitude.
In reality you/we/us have no idea what National would have done, its all just hypothetical conjecture. The same would of course apply in reverse, all just hot air.
Either we work together or infighting will eventually lead to similar outcomes as usa.
Last edited by arc; 06-05-2020 at 06:37 PM.
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06-05-2020, 06:42 PM
#7555
Originally Posted by nztx
Maybe the Propaganda Section are having a hard job finding anything else currently positive arising from Labour's orchestrated 'missed the right time' Disaster and have the blinkers on with reality of the NOW
The next reporting presumably from Stats will make very dark reading & reporting indeed when effects of Lock Down come through, as if rising unemployment, permanent closures etc hitting the media are not enough prelude to what is impending.
Try telling "It was sound before ..." to those whose Jobs, Businesses etc have become deceased & well buried in the aftermath ...
IMO .. not sure whether today's effort is "Fake News" or "Flakey News" just to allow #1 Spinner to open her trap ..
Wow you are the best whirling dervish ive seen for a while, who you gonna call, Trumpy?
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06-05-2020, 08:10 PM
#7556
Originally Posted by Joshuatree
Wow you are the best whirling dervish ive seen for a while, who you gonna call, Trumpy?
Is that the best you can do -- when Govt's back office spinners obviously have precious little more positive current stuff for #1 to spin her mouthpiece on ?
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06-05-2020, 08:12 PM
#7557
Originally Posted by arc
I gather that those decrying Labour would rather have had National in place and kept all businesses open.
No lockdown:
Sweden death rate of 27.2 per 100,000 people (and still rising as of today)
Late lockdown:
Italy 45 per 100,000
Spain 51 per 100,000
USA: 21 and still climbing, lock-unlock-partial lock- free america and lets party, the virus is just a conspiracy...
Lockdown applied:
Denmark 8.5 per 100,000
Finland 4.35 per 100,000
Norway 4.03 per 100,000
Czech republic 2 per 100,000
Lockdown applied: geographic location and global news a benefit to the country
NZ 0.4 per 100,000
So if National was in power and would have been happy to keep businesses open like USA, Sweden, it says a lot about them and the people who would support that attitude.
In reality you/we/us have no idea what National would have done, its all just hypothetical conjecture. The same would of course apply in reverse, all just hot air.
Either we work together or infighting will eventually lead to similar outcomes as usa.
Not everything has to be a loaded political preference, arc.
How about putting up numbers for Australia, Taiwan, Hong Kong & South Korea?
Why does NZ have to be compared with the worse rather than the best?
We can but improve by comparing with the best, not the worse.
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06-05-2020, 08:12 PM
#7558
Originally Posted by arc
I gather that those decrying Labour would rather have had National in place and kept all businesses open.
No lockdown:
Sweden death rate of 27.2 per 100,000 people (and still rising as of today)
Late lockdown:
Italy 45 per 100,000
Spain 51 per 100,000
USA: 21 and still climbing, lock-unlock-partial lock- free america and lets party, the virus is just a conspiracy...
Lockdown applied:
Denmark 8.5 per 100,000
Finland 4.35 per 100,000
Norway 4.03 per 100,000
Czech republic 2 per 100,000
Lockdown applied: geographic location and global news a benefit to the country
NZ 0.4 per 100,000
So if National was in power and would have been happy to keep businesses open like USA, Sweden, it says a lot about them and the people who would support that attitude.
In reality you/we/us have no idea what National would have done, its all just hypothetical conjecture. The same would of course apply in reverse, all just hot air.
Either we work together or infighting will eventually lead to similar outcomes as usa.
The obvious - Taiwan seems to have been missed out of your posting ..
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06-05-2020, 09:12 PM
#7559
Originally Posted by nztx
Is that the best you can do -- when Govt's back office spinners obviously have precious little more positive current stuff for #1 to spin her mouthpiece on ?
Whose really running the country tx - like whose pulling the puppet strings?
“ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”
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06-05-2020, 09:23 PM
#7560
Originally Posted by nztx
The obvious - Taiwan seems to have been missed out of your posting ..
And Vietnam with 90mill people neighbouring border with China but far fewer cases than here 0 deaths
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