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    Quote Originally Posted by jonu View Post
    Thanks for the reply Panda. Finally someone at least trying to respond to the question. What has Mr Twyford done? I think the problem lies in what he has NOT done.

    Kiwibuild abject failure was absolutely nothing to do with apprentices. I have personal experience which I won't bore you with.

    Then we can start on Auckland Light Rail....which is more than Twyford has.

    Then Transmission Gully, the biggest job on his books....turning it to a complete cockup and he hadn't even visited it. Not that far from his Wellington office is it?

    I believe these issues have all been canvassed well outside the "National media bubble". Perhaps those in the "Labour media bubble" shut it out.

    Anyone else care to mount a defense for Mr Twyford and his promotion up the list to No.4?
    Transmission Gully seems to be a National party cockup ? https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2020/05/0...smission-gully

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    Good factual posts artemis to shut down the myth they are trying here that Kiwibuild was just a small mistake to learn from. What utter nonsense, as you have pointed out. It was clearly pointed out to them before the elections that it was destined to fail as it immediately did due to all the things you have pointed out. The PM gave Twyford a vote of no confidence by removing him from that portfolio but here she is a few months later promoting him. Her decisions make no sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by westerly View Post
    Transmission Gully seems to be a National party cockup ? https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2020/05/0...smission-gully

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    The project seemed to be running reasonably satisfactorily after being established by the Nats. Covid has derailed it and Twyford was no where to be seen. They could have kept critical staff/teams going under essential workers etc.

    Twyford as overseeing Minister needed to be a clear and decisive link between the government's Covid Response and the project. Given the Government's team was effectively Ardern and Robertson, what the hell was Twyford doing for 8 weeks as his biggest project fell apart? Earning a promotion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
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    Difficult to argue with you on those points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonu View Post
    The project seemed to be running reasonably satisfactorily after being established by the Nats. Covid has derailed it and Twyford was no where to be seen. They could have kept critical staff/teams going under essential workers etc.

    Twyford as overseeing Minister needed to be a clear and decisive link between the government's Covid Response and the project. Given the Government's team was effectively Ardern and Robertson, what the hell was Twyford doing for 8 weeks as his biggest project fell apart? Earning a promotion?
    He was still gleaming learnings from his Kiwibuild failure & debacle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonu View Post
    The project seemed to be running reasonably satisfactorily after being established by the Nats. Covid has derailed it and Twyford was no where to be seen. They could have kept critical staff/teams going under essential workers etc.

    Twyford as overseeing Minister needed to be a clear and decisive link between the government's Covid Response and the project. Given the Government's team was effectively Ardern and Robertson, what the hell was Twyford doing for 8 weeks as his biggest project fell apart? Earning a promotion?
    Try as you might, you cannot blame him for this one.https://thespinoff.co.nz/politics/07...folly-of-ppps/

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    Quote Originally Posted by westerly View Post
    Try as you might, you cannot blame him for this one.https://thespinoff.co.nz/politics/07...folly-of-ppps/

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    Just look at the author. A public transport zealot. Says enough really. Nothing wrong with PPP's. Its Twitfords handling of it that has cocked this up.

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    Because government delivered projects have such a compelling track record? This is not a binary choice of PPP's = bad Government controlled = good. The devil is in the detail of management, and what risk each entity is prepared to accept.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fungus pudding View Post
    Difficult to argue with you on those points.
    I thought an UK article saying Jacinda voted to allow healthy new-born babies to be thrown into a rubbish bin, and allowed to die slowly would be too much for a Saturday on ST
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