Labour / NZ First Government

[Panda-NZ-]

Tests with instant results maybe.?

We can wait for that as well as a vaccine.

[Zaphod]

As early as Feb her party was saying "we can't stay locked up in this country forever", "A vaccine is not a plan". It was appealing to the talkback radio crowd rather than proper health advice and disappointing to see.

Judith has consistently advocated for opening the borders in a safe manner, which is not the same as opening the borders up completely, which is the unsupported narrative being pushed on social media and being spoken by a segment of the general public. She's right, we can't stay locked up forever, and we do need a plan should a vaccine not become available either in the short or unfortunately long-term.

Even Jacinda has acknowledged this and is now stating that she had begun discussing this very proposal on September 10th.

[Balance]

Judith has consistently advocated for opening the borders in a safe manner, which is not the same as opening the borders up completely, which is the unsupported narrative being pushed on social media and being spoken by a segment of the general public. She's right, we can't stay locked up forever, and we do need a plan should a vaccine not become available either in the short or unfortunately long-term.

Even Jacinda has acknowledged this and is now stating that she had begun discussing this very proposal on September 10th.

Cindy is very fast to open up the borders for the 2 rugby matches - even to the extent of calling the Oz PM.

One must wonder why?

[tim23]

Cindy is very fast to open up the borders for the 2 rugby matches - even to the extent of calling the Oz PM.

One must wonder why?

Maybe she likes rugby?

[Balance]

Maybe she likes rugby?

Good answer. Means she likes lying through her teeth as well. .

[RupertBear]

Maybe she likes rugby?

[dobby41]

Cindy is very fast to open up the borders for the 2 rugby matches - even to the extent of calling the Oz PM.

One must wonder why?

In one case you get people from 2 teams where members already have covid and the countries have a lot of community cases.
In the other you have a team from a country which, apart from Vic, is in a similar situation to us.
I'm sure you can see that this is a pragmatic, risk based approach - like what you have been asking them for.
They give you what you want and you complain, can't help some people.

[Balance]

In one case you get people from 2 teams where members already have covid and the countries have a lot of community cases.
In the other you have a team from a country which, apart from Vic, is in a similar situation to us.
I'm sure you can see that this is a pragmatic, risk based approach - like what you have been asking them for.
They give you what you want and you complain, can't help some people.

She lied about how NZ lost the hosting of the RC.

Enough said.

[dobby41]

Judith has consistently advocated for opening the borders in a safe manner, which is not the same as opening the borders up completely, which is the unsupported narrative being pushed on social media and being spoken by a segment of the general public.

I was wrong to say that she wanted the borders opened 'no matter what'.
Judith has consistently made a lot of noise about the border needing to be open.
She later toned it down that they would do so if it could be done safely (same as Labour).
In June National wanted students back in. In August Judith distanced herself from that policy.
They are making a lot of noise with no skin in the game - they talk the talk whereas Labour, being the ones running the show, have to walk the walk.

[dobby41]

She lied about how NZ lost the hosting of the RC.

Enough said.

So you agree that Labour adopted a pragmatic, risk based approach to the Aussie and the Bledisloe Cup?
Now you beef is different.
Make up your mind.