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28-09-2020, 03:17 PM
#17111
Originally Posted by couta1
I don't see where I mentioned being one of the apex ocean giants, I said top 100 holder, I post to encourage those that may be finding it tough at the moment to stay strong,reef fish comment is just the reality of things.
Guess it must be a question of perspective - One of the Top 100 in ATM looks like an ocean giant as I peer up from the murky depths below
I always appreciate your perspectives.
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28-09-2020, 03:17 PM
#17112
Originally Posted by Beagle
I have a dozen Tui's here. Covid won't affect 2H sales which will rebound 47% from current sales level's. YEAH RIGHT. That registered a very solid reading on this dog's creative corporate B.S. meter.
I think you are taking being mischievous to a new creative level with your 47% number
At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.
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28-09-2020, 03:18 PM
#17113
Originally Posted by bull....
imagine if a2 doesnt make its optimistic 2nd half outlook be amegedon on the share price
Methinks this hasn't gone as low as the bull would like.
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28-09-2020, 03:22 PM
#17114
Member
Originally Posted by jonu
Methinks this hasn't gone as low as the bull would like.
Pre-close will be interesting.
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28-09-2020, 03:27 PM
#17115
Originally Posted by winner69
I think you are taking being mischievous to a new creative level with your 47% number
Based on simple facts mate. Mid point of annual sales forecast over mid point of sales of IH shows the company is projecting sales of $1,100m for 2H compared to $750m for H1 so sales are forecasted 1100/750 = 46.67% higher in 2H than what they doing in this half. (Note I made it clear from the outset that the 47% growth forecasted in 2H is based on 1H sales, not what they did in 2H in FY20).
No creative license, creative accounting or mischievousness whatsoever in that...all based on the forecasted figures the company itself provided.
Don't blame me if your abacus isn't working properly
Last edited by Beagle; 28-09-2020 at 03:29 PM.
Ecclesiastes 11:2: Divide your portion to seven, or even to eight, for you do not know what misfortune may occur on the earth.
Ben Graham - In the short run the market is a voting machine but in the long run the market is a weighing machine
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28-09-2020, 03:47 PM
#17116
Originally Posted by Beagle
Based on simple facts mate. Mid point of annual sales forecast over mid point of sales of IH shows the company is projecting sales of $1,100m for 2H compared to $750m for H1 so sales are forecasted 1100/750 = 46.67% higher in 2H than what they doing in this half. (Note I made it clear from the outset that the 47% growth forecasted in 2H is based on 1H sales, not what they did in 2H in FY20).
No creative license, creative accounting or mischievousness whatsoever in that...all based on the forecasted figures the company itself provided.
Don't blame me if your abacus isn't working properly
OK if not mischievous just misleading
H2 sales are always more than H1 sales so your logic is rather like some of what politicians use - full of crap and very creative etc etc etc
Based on forecasted figures the highest H2 sales are likely to be are 1175m (H1 725m and high FY 1900m) which would be 27% more than H2 20
Your 47% is (don't know what word to put in here)
Taking your favourite midpoint approach H1 would be down 7% on last year and H2 would be up 19% - now be fair and say this is a more realistic view of reality than your scaremongering 47%
Last edited by winner69; 28-09-2020 at 03:50 PM.
At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.
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28-09-2020, 04:03 PM
#17117
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28-09-2020, 04:23 PM
#17118
Originally Posted by Beagle
So I'm misleading, full of crap, mischievous if not misleading, very creative etc etc etc and more adjectives you can't find as well as deliberately scaremongering.
WOW who needs enemies with friends like you
Sounding like a few dogs I have known!
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28-09-2020, 04:23 PM
#17119
49m shares shorted as at last update.
Guess theres some short coverings today to lock in gains.
Be fascinating after the analysts have had a chat with the company, what updated numbers and recommendations they will be coming out with in the next few days given the sp is already way down on its peak in August.
Last edited by Balance; 28-09-2020 at 04:27 PM.
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28-09-2020, 04:25 PM
#17120
Originally Posted by Beagle
So I'm misleading, full of crap, mischievous if not misleading, very creative etc etc etc and more adjectives you can't find as well as deliberately scaremongering.
WOW who needs enemies with friends like you
Only in this instance
Don’t take it to heart .....You’ll get over it
Just didn’t want some to think they needed to do 47% better
Last edited by winner69; 28-09-2020 at 04:27 PM.
At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.
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