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17-12-2020, 08:45 AM
#381
Balance - somebody had the audacity to ask Adhern the other day about the report on the Labour Party camp scandal
“ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”
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17-12-2020, 09:09 AM
#382
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18-12-2020, 06:27 AM
#383
https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/...matao-dispute/
Ihumatao ‘settled’ with our money - breaching the sanctity of Treaty Settlements & private land ownership.
And note that the Cynical one was nowhere to be seen at the announcement?
Cindy is too PR & image conscious to let mud stick to her face but stick it will. Ihumatao will not be forgotten.
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18-12-2020, 06:47 AM
#384
Originally Posted by Balance
https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/...matao-dispute/
Ihumatao ‘settled’ with our money - breaching the sanctity of Treaty Settlements & private land ownership.
And note that the Cynical one was nowhere to be seen at the announcement?
Cindy is too PR & image conscious to let mud stick to her face but stick it will. Ihumatao will not be forgotten.
The next few years will deliver to we the people a whole lot of Ihumatao entertainment. And related occupations as well, watch this space. Expensive entertainment for sure, and not necessarily fun, but popcorn futures will be through the roof.
Ms Ardern in 2020 promised sticky initiatives - policies and spending that will be hard to reverse under a new government. Delivering on that quite well so far.
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18-12-2020, 08:40 AM
#385
Originally Posted by artemis
The next few years will deliver to we the people a whole lot of Ihumatao entertainment. And related occupations as well, watch this space. Expensive entertainment for sure, and not necessarily fun, but popcorn futures will be through the roof.
Ms Ardern in 2020 promised sticky initiatives - policies and spending that will be hard to reverse under a new government. Delivering on that quite well so far.
Indeed, the message has been sent. If you want to make a name for yourself go and occupy a piece of land, call Cindy's bluff and see what happens. Election year will add to your chances. From what has been revealed, the deal doesn't seem significantly different from the previous. Only, we will be paying for it. Strange, on land that was deemed too significant to be built on by the Occupiers.
But never mind, Cindy got most of her Maori seats....job done. Go Cindy.
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18-12-2020, 12:56 PM
#386
Originally Posted by Balance
The Govt brought the land - nothing else has happened (yet).
Really the issue started back in 2012 when the Environment Court forced the council to rezone the land to commercial or residential after they wanted to make it public space.
The nail in the coffin was National making it a Special Housing Area in 2014.
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18-12-2020, 10:04 PM
#387
I see our very experienced Foreign Minister has suggested NZ could help negotiations to relieve tensions between China & Australia. China has told her to stay out of it. I hope she heeds it and keeps her mouth shut. It has nothing to do with her and she has no experience or qualifications to get involved but could potentially do enormous harm to our exporters. I suggest she goes and does what the rest of her Whanau is doing, getting Government money for Ihumatao. That's an easy one for her to achieve.
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18-12-2020, 10:24 PM
#388
Originally Posted by jonu
Indeed, the message has been sent. If you want to make a name for yourself go and occupy a piece of land, call Cindy's bluff and see what happens. Election year will add to your chances. From what has been revealed, the deal doesn't seem significantly different from the previous. Only, we will be paying for it. Strange, on land that was deemed too significant to be built on by the Occupiers.
But never mind, Cindy got most of her Maori seats....job done. Go Cindy.
What an idiotic comment - you and your mate imbalance are in a huge minority (non Labour voters) - you are yesterdays people
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20-12-2020, 09:34 AM
#389
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/heathe...OQG52QXKMDDYI/
Paywalled
Ihumatao - ultimate betrayal of the principles of treaty settlement & private land rights.
All for the Maori votes so Cindy can stay in power.
Excerpt : "They* have shown their ability to flex their muscles and make demands, including forcing Kelvin Davis into Labour's No 2 position, and possibly also leveraging Nanaia Mahuta into the foreign affairs portfolio despite her lack of qualification for the role.
Exerting power isn't a bad thing. Any grouping within a caucus is entitled to (and should) use that size to further its own goals, whether it be a group of rural MPs, urban MPs, liberals, conservatives, or, in this case, Māori MPs.
What's tricky is when the goals of that grouping don't align with the goals of the wider party. And that seems the case with Labour. The Ihumātao decision is one the Māori caucus will see as a win, but one Jacinda Ardern doesn't even want to answer questions about.
Expect more of this. There are probably more controversial te ao Māori decisions than Christmases left between now and 2023's election."
* Maori MPs
Last edited by Balance; 20-12-2020 at 10:19 AM.
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20-12-2020, 10:25 PM
#390
Originally Posted by tim23
What an idiotic comment - you and your mate imbalance are in a huge minority (non Labour voters) - you are yesterdays people
How about justifying "idiotic" with some well reasoned logic instead of making an arse of yourself.
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