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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    The climate commission wants electric planes on regional routes in NZ by 2030.

    That’ll be a great deal for AIR ...and large capex no doubt.
    Electric planes by 2030?
    Just proves this Climate Change Commision lot are living in cloud Cuckoo land...
    For these aircraft to be ready and certified for passenger service by then the prototypes should have already been produced and in a flight testing program...
    Where are they?
    Who's producing them?
    Fanciful stuff without any facts to back up these so called goals..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny1 View Post
    Electric planes by 2030?
    Just proves this Climate Change Commision lot are living in cloud Cuckoo land...
    For these aircraft to be ready and certified for passenger service by then the prototypes should have already been produced and in a flight testing program...
    Where are they?
    Who's producing them?
    Fanciful stuff without any facts to back up these so called goals..
    Not wrong Benny1. A complete farce. Sadly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny1 View Post
    Electric planes by 2030?
    Just proves this Climate Change Commision lot are living in cloud Cuckoo land...
    For these aircraft to be ready and certified for passenger service by then the prototypes should have already been produced and in a flight testing program...
    Where are they?
    Who's producing them?
    Fanciful stuff without any facts to back up these so called goals..
    This is the trouble with modern NZ, so much negativity, giving up first and not even trying.

    Where is the old No8 wire can do attitude?

    A couple of weeks work in the in the shed with an old washing machine motor, the UTE battery and a busted hang-glider and we'll be flying Auckland to Invercargill ....

    .... and back!


    Let's give it our best shot.
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    They are already here
    By 2030 so many kiwis embarrassed to fly AirNZ just need small planes?
    https://www.electricair.nz/
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/travel/as...4BIMXM42FDOSQ/

    Ok they can make bigger ones
    https://www.soundsair.com/2020/10/So...ssion-Flights/
    There was something written re collaboration with a US of A Co a few years ago but I can't find the reference

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    someone (DIC SNOOP) needs to come on and estimate the demand on the grid of hundreds of thousands of flying electric cars at peak times of the day...

    is there enough generation capacity to handle the load.

    Or are they solar powered?

    or has every house and garage with an electric plane i mean car in it using solar panels?

    and can these flying planes cars fit in your standard car port and garage,

    and since some auckland streets cant handle car parked how on earth is the average person supposed to park their plane , i mean car in the street.

    i just dont see the jetsons coming to a town or city anytime soon or in the future.

    i dont think AIR is going to worry about this kind of competition for few more 10 of decades.

    Some streets and town planning in Zealandia have been laid down for a century or more as some of the houses..

    It just doesnt look like it will fly..

    well the family version wont fit in the garage easily but this might...

    https://www.jetsonaero.com/

    not a winter flyer or rainy day and no where to put the shopping bags..

    still cant see it beating a bike with a basket in europe.
    Last edited by Waltzing; 09-06-2021 at 09:32 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snow Leopard View Post
    This is the trouble with modern NZ, so much negativity, giving up first and not even trying.

    Where is the old No8 wire can do attitude?

    A couple of weeks work in the in the shed with an old washing machine motor, the UTE battery and a busted hang-glider and we'll be flying Auckland to Invercargill ....

    .... and back!


    Let's give it our best shot.
    The No8 wire in many instances gets firmly entangled in the rafts of hefty labour costs
    and other suffocating bureaucracy multiplying at an alarming rate around victims,
    surrounded by the myriad of weird & wonderful H&S nonsense policed by a tribe
    of bureaucrats so experienced, one has to wonder at times if they've ever spent
    much time on any real workplace floor possess any creative bones ..

    Get it badly wrong and the bus tickets dished out by the learned judiciary in many
    an instance for infringement can be near terminal to many smaller enterprises ..

    End result = much of the creativity moving towards wider scale production migrates
    off to more industrial friendly & lower cost destinations with less excessively overbearing
    bureaucracy abounding here ..

    and we wonder why what we have been known for in NZ previously seemingly is looking like
    it will be headed towards extinction..


    Anyone looked at recent fortunes & ownership of Pacific Aerospace in the Waikato ?

    If it's any good to absolutely marvellous - it gets migrated nuts bolts & washers intact off overseas,
    gets bought out and / or becomes destined an add-on in some foreign company or suffers some other
    demise like roughly similar technology or process elsewhere taking over in the same space & eventually
    overwhelming the limited local operations on our shores..

    Such is today's competitive, if not greedy world stage.. with so many imitation bureaucrats running
    around pretending they know best .. usually only finding new ways to clip the ticket delivering further
    hindrances and excuses to extract even more levies taxes & fees from the job

    not to forget another band of backwards thinking political causes not stopping to think which way
    prospect of a meaningful forward direction is ..

    Case proven yet ?
    Last edited by nztx; 09-06-2021 at 11:49 PM.

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    I hear what you are saying NZTX.
    Try to build a house that is a bit out of the ordinary it is a maize of obstacles to negotiate
    Maybe this one will get of the ground though
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/ind...licopter-drone

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snow Leopard View Post
    This is the trouble with modern NZ, so much negativity, giving up first and not even trying.

    Where is the old No8 wire can do attitude?

    A couple of weeks work in the in the shed with an old washing machine motor, the UTE battery and a busted hang-glider and we'll be flying Auckland to Invercargill ....

    .... and back!


    Let's give it our best shot.
    Like it ... and lets face it - as we all know - Kiwi mentality is even an impediment to fly.

    Most other birds can do it though and they don't even need batteries - they are just running on biofuel ...
    Last edited by BlackPeter; 10-06-2021 at 11:16 AM.
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    Still all a bit quiet on their capital raise......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sideshow Bob View Post
    Still all a bit quiet on their capital raise......
    Any thoughts on the potential structure of the capital raise? Rights per share? Dollar amounts?

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