AIR - Air NZ.

[Waltzing]

"airline industry is absolutely bonkers"

and AUS flight booking industry shares also up on terrible numbers. Surely delta has pushed this sector out 12 months and hopefully no more rogue variants?

[Beagle]

"airline industry is absolutely bonkers"

and AUS flight booking industry shares also up on terrible numbers. Surely delta has pushed this sector out 12 months and hopefully no more rogue variants?

No chance AIR will make money before FY26.. and no dividends for the rest of this decade...you read it from the hound first.

[Waltzing]

Well there are some DIV questions for MR B over on WHS which might give investors more hope..

While wishing to return to europe next july i felt that this year in NZ was the best year for freedom of movement likely for a while.

Unfortunately the experts are now voicing this view.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/pol...cted-next-year

Perhaps it will be 2023 before travel back to europe complete with PPE kit when out and about and avoiding crowds...

Means while of course for some of us money tide up in europe on accommodation is another year of write offs..

Would have been better to have bought apartments after all. At least they could have been rented out!

[Sideshow Bob]

While strategic/other seasons for it, that airfreight subsidy is huge for Air NZ.

Cargo up 71%, $333m of revenue from the govt.

Take that out and the pupply looks even sicker.

[porkandpuha]

While strategic/other seasons for it, that airfreight subsidy is huge for Air NZ.

Cargo up 71%, $333m of revenue from the govt.

Take that out and the pupply looks even sicker.

Ironically, the government also gives a subsidy to other airlines in the NZ market who then take market share off Air NZ. The other carriers are often getting propped up by their own governments meaning the double dipping allows them to undercut Air NZ's pricing.

[Dassets]

On the same routes? With the same feeder network?

[porkandpuha]

On the same routes? With the same feeder network?

On the same routes.

Government support for the transport sector | Ministry of Transport and click "Maintaining International Air Connectivity Scheme"

Subsidies for all of the below airlines/routes, while Air NZ also fly into the same market:
China Southern into Guangzhou
China Airlines into Taipei
Cathay Pacific into Hong Kong
Korean Air into Seoul

And that list excludes the fact that China Airlines can connect into the other Asian markets where Air NZ fly (Shanghai, Guangzhou, Tokyo)

[Beagle]

I believe the issue is a lot of medicines come from that part of the world and its no good trying to sea freight them

[iceman]

I believe the issue is a lot of medicines come from that part of the world and its no good trying to sea freight them

And very important to keep the freight routes and contacts active. If all these airlines leave, it may be very hard to get them back given how far behind we will be opening up our borders. They'll be far too busy elsewhere when we finally welcome them again.

[nztx]

SP still not showing too much forward collateral damage

perhaps the hard landing is still to come when the clouds clear ?