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14-12-2021, 10:07 AM
#19111
Originally Posted by mikelee
Yeah, AIA's SP already showing signs of recovery recently. We'll now see how well the vaccine pass really works. Can't believe that the library don't even bother checking my photo ID! It'd be so easy for someone to just borrow a mate's pass.
The vax pass has never been intended to be policed for sure - as has been shown overseas. It really only ever intended as a carrot and stick to get people vaccinated.
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14-12-2021, 10:10 AM
#19112
Originally Posted by Waltzing
Surely it going to end up the govt holding more shares and the retail investor diluted...no DIV's for ages..not a BUY.
This is the 'warning shot' across the bows of shareholders. They won't be able to say they didn't see it coming when all hell breaks loose.
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14-12-2021, 10:27 AM
#19113
"hell breaks loose"
heavy flak flying....
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14-12-2021, 10:30 AM
#19114
There's already been a video made of what's going to happen to shareholders, its here, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCqe751tOAo
Ecclesiastes 11:2: “Divide your portion to seven, or even to eight, for you do not know what misfortune may occur on the earth.”
Ben Graham - In the short run the market is a voting machine but in the long run the market is a weighing machine
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14-12-2021, 10:40 AM
#19115
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14-12-2021, 11:50 AM
#19116
Originally Posted by Beagle
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...NUB45WKRL7SYE/
Mass exodus - 12,000 people flying out of Auckland tomorrow. Wonder how many will bother coming back with prison walls due to go back up on 17 January ?
Anyone still invested in this pup is begging for trouble and will surely get it as sure as night follows day.
Surely they can't really close the borders again come 17th January. That would be political suicide, and create a lot of civil unrest within the country. If they open it up for a couple of weeks then the virus would've already had a chance to spread through the country further so there would be no point locking the borders down again. If they do, with the timing of first quarter AIR CR and hitting the threshold of maxed loan available. Surely the debt and everything else will be very bad news for shareholders clinging on still. Yet AIR SP still holds in the 1.5 range, quite astonishing really, or there are a LOT of new 'investors' who really have no idea of what's taking place on company fundamentals and what the Cap Raise signifies, means and will be used for (ie to pay debt).
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14-12-2021, 12:14 PM
#19117
Originally Posted by Maxtrade
Surely they can't really close the borders again come 17th January. That would be political suicide, and create a lot of civil unrest within the country. If they open it up for a couple of weeks then the virus would've already had a chance to spread through the country further so there would be no point locking the borders down again. If they do, with the timing of first quarter AIR CR and hitting the threshold of maxed loan available. Surely the debt and everything else will be very bad news for shareholders clinging on still. Yet AIR SP still holds in the 1.5 range, quite astonishing really, or there are a LOT of new 'investors' who really have no idea of what's taking place on company fundamentals and what the Cap Raise signifies, means and will be used for (ie to pay debt).
Agreed...border going back up would be complete madness in terms of expending political capital...but so is a lot of the other things the Govt are doing, eg 3 Waters. Its clear there is a whole new generation of investors with no idea of the financial fundamental's. Most popular company on Sharsies...
Ecclesiastes 11:2: “Divide your portion to seven, or even to eight, for you do not know what misfortune may occur on the earth.”
Ben Graham - In the short run the market is a voting machine but in the long run the market is a weighing machine
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14-12-2021, 12:21 PM
#19118
How the **** is this still trading at $1.57??
Is there a massive amount of people out there sniffing Av gas??
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14-12-2021, 12:45 PM
#19119
Originally Posted by Baa_Baa
This is the 'warning shot' across the bows of shareholders. They won't be able to say they didn't see it coming when all hell breaks loose.
Yes indeed BaaBaa ….a huge ‘warning shot’
Maybe current non-govt shareholders might end up with 15% of the company soon.
Can always buy back when govt sells down in 2028
“ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”
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14-12-2021, 12:56 PM
#19120
Originally Posted by winner69
Yes indeed BaaBaa ….a huge ‘warning shot’
Maybe current non-govt shareholders might end up with 15% of the company soon.
Can always buy back when govt sells down in 2028
We talk about retail shareholder damage, but what about these big guys? Do they not see what we think we see, or are they locked in through their funds or what? Surely if they do see calamity, they'd be doing something about reducing their exposure?
96092868 shares (8.56%) HSBC NOMINEES (NEW ZEALAND) LIMITED
81867211 shares (7.29%) National Nominees New Zealand Limited
60820280 shares (5.42%) JP Morgan Chase Bank
54297955 shares (4.84%) HSBC NOMINEES (NEW ZEALAND) LIMITED
42724338 shares (3.81%) Citibank Nominees (NZ) Ltd
25046308 shares (2.23%) Accident Compensation Corporation
18546981 shares (1.65%) Cogent Nominees Limited
8022271 shares (0.71%) PREMIER NOMINEES LIMITED
7943351 shares (0.71%) New Zealand Superannuation Fund Nominees Limited
For the record:
582854593 shares (51.91%) HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN IN RIGHT OF NEW ZEALAND ACTING BY AND THROUGH HER MINISTER OF FINANCE
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