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07-02-2022, 09:15 AM
#19211
Headline a few years ago Air NZ risks a hit as oil price booms: analysts
.when oil was still in US$70s
Over US$90 at the moment
.hmmm
Doesnt really matter though because profits dont matter these days
so no worries (and waltzing will pay the higher fares)
At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.
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07-02-2022, 11:40 AM
#19212
Once we go over 1000 cases a day do you guys think people will want to get into a small aluminum tube and sit there for ages next to complete strangers and breathe in all the air that others have expelled. Hmmm...I foresee demand collapsing.
Ecclesiastes 11:2: Divide your portion to seven, or even to eight, for you do not know what misfortune may occur on the earth.
Ben Graham - In the short run the market is a voting machine but in the long run the market is a weighing machine
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07-02-2022, 11:49 AM
#19213
Originally Posted by Beagle
Once we go over 1000 cases a day do you guys think people will want to get into a small aluminum tube and sit there for ages next to complete strangers and breathe in all the air that others have expelled. Hmmm...I foresee demand collapsing.
No need to wait for a 1000 cases per day. Of the current 168 locations of interest, 18 of them are flights (10.7%), and even that doesn't tell the whole story ...
... from the Covid website, "Not all exposure events will become locations of interest if health officials can identify everyone who may have been exposed (for example, a flight, a hairdresser with booked appointments, a private social event). These are considered private exposure events and you will be contacted by a district health board, the Ministry of Health or a district health board public health unit."
So, not all flights with exposures are reported as locations of interest. Who knows then what the actual number of flights with exposures is.
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07-02-2022, 12:05 PM
#19214
Originally Posted by Baa_Baa
No need to wait for a 1000 cases per day. Of the current 168 locations of interest, 18 of them are flights (10.7%), and even that doesn't tell the whole story ...
... from the Covid website, "Not all exposure events will become locations of interest if health officials can identify everyone who may have been exposed (for example, a flight, a hairdresser with booked appointments, a private social event). These are considered private exposure events and you will be contacted by a district health board, the Ministry of Health or a district health board public health unit."
So, not all flights with exposures are reported as locations of interest. Who knows then what the actual number of flights with exposures is.
Its a HUGE worry. There's no way in the world I am choosing to play Russian Roulette with my health so I really feel for those who have no choice to do so for their job or their business.
Ecclesiastes 11:2: Divide your portion to seven, or even to eight, for you do not know what misfortune may occur on the earth.
Ben Graham - In the short run the market is a voting machine but in the long run the market is a weighing machine
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07-02-2022, 07:33 PM
#19215
So which travellers are supplying the virus to these flights of interest, the 'double vaccinated' or the 'tested negative'?
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07-02-2022, 08:42 PM
#19216
Last edited by nztx; 07-02-2022 at 08:48 PM.
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08-02-2022, 01:33 AM
#19217
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Looks like Australia are fully reopening in two weeks. As people will be able to transit to the rest of the world via Australia this effectively means the resumption of free movement for Kiwis (so much for the 'five phase plan' announced earlier this week!)
Judging by other countries it doesn't seem like Omicron had as greater impact on peoples willingness to travel.
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08-02-2022, 06:51 AM
#19218
Originally Posted by Tomtom
Looks like Australia are fully reopening in two weeks. As people will be able to transit to the rest of the world via Australia this effectively means the resumption of free movement for Kiwis (so much for the 'five phase plan' announced earlier this week!)
Judging by other countries it doesn't seem like Omicron had as greater impact on peoples willingness to travel.
Totally correct. The World is back traveling in a big way. I am in Ushuaia in Argentina where 4 cruiseships have come in today with around 6,000 - 7,000 passengers. The industry is up and running again. Sadly the scaremongering in NZ seems to have worked on a large proportion of the population, so NZ is missing out on the boom that is already happening elsewhere ! AIR remains a basket case as a result.
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08-02-2022, 08:19 AM
#19219
Passenger / capacity numbers growing pretty fast
.normal not thar off
.except this part of the world
https://www.oag.com/blog/increasing-...in-all-markets
At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.
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08-02-2022, 08:59 AM
#19220
Not right. If you are a kiwi and want to use the stay at home Quarantine option(that is what it is but no one will do it) you have to have been with the convicts for two weeks or MIQ for you.
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