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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda-NZ- View Post
    China doesn't really have a navy, and russias is half a world away.

    I'd like missile defence (patriot anti-missile) and drones. The drones will be useful when bushfires from climate change happen in nz.
    Actually China's Navy is now larger than the US's in terms of number of ships - will try to find an article again in the morning

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    There are reports Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov will attend the next round of Russia - Ukraine negotiations.

    Even if he does a Baghdad Bob act denouncing Ukrainian Nazis and blaming the "West" his attendance is a sign the Kremlin is beginning to recognize the pickle they are in.

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    If what they are asking is all they want it does not seem that impossible. Crimea was Russian anyway and the two separatist states? And a commitment to neutrality? That's a short list really.

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    https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/06/politics/mark-milley-ukraine-military-assistance/index.html
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    "China doesn't really have a navy, and russias is half a world away."

    really?

    China is building a blue water navy as fast as it can...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davexl View Post
    Actually China's Navy is now larger than the US's in terms of number of ships - will try to find an article again in the morning

    China Has World’s Largest Navy With 355 Ships and Counting, Says Pentagon

    https://news.usni.org/2021/11/03/chi...eid=cc0f71bf89
    Here's the article...
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    yep lots of little shippies

    but with china doing a shut the country inside its borders they dont really need one as everyone one of them will have a communist party officer just like the old Soviet days..

    The US will be a big Chip player in ten years time and expect the EU to have facilities as well.

    Entering a new era in industrial manufacturing and everything is going to cost more.

    ..... with oil about to spike is there anything else you can run your Aston Martin on? Charlie runs his on wine? is there likely to be a glut of wine any time soon?

    https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/06/o...ion/index.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda-NZ- View Post
    China doesn't really have a navy, and russias is half a world away.

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    Actually - The Chinese navy has more ships than the US navy ... and while they are smaller, they don't need to be that big given that they are much closer to any likely conflict zones (less need to carry fuel, supplies and spares). As well - a rocket launched from a small ship is as dangerous as a rocket launched from a large ship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike2020 View Post
    If what they are asking is all they want it does not seem that impossible. Crimea was Russian anyway and the two separatist states? And a commitment to neutrality? That's a short list really.
    Crimea was Ottoman, autonomous, part of the Russian Empire, then Soviet, then Ukrainian.

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    That's apples and oranges really. The Soviets gifted Crimea to Ukraine probably in a vodka induced state of generosity and have lived to regret it. I can't remember which leader but a lot of Soviet leaders were Ukrainian.

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