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    Quote Originally Posted by 777 View Post
    You forget the past so easily. Shearer, Cunliffe, Little, Ardern. Not sure whether Goff should also be there. Itwas hard to keep up with the changes.
    The past doesn't matter when Labour now has a track record of sticking with a leader while in government.

    National is unknown.

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    Why is the Ardern government so ****-scared of open debate & discussions on co-governance and preferential treatments for Maoris?

    This is a good piece on why there must be open discussion so that NZ can move forward with confidence and acceptance with what unites us rather than what divides us :

    https://democracyproject.nz/2022/05/...thing-to-fear/

    Simplistically, Ardern & the Maori cabal are fearful that their separatism agenda cannot stand the scrutiny of open debate - which is why they have been doing it by stealth.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    Why is the Ardern government so ****-scared of open debate & discussions on co-governance and preferential treatments for Maoris?

    This is a good piece on why there must be open discussion so that NZ can move forward with confidence and acceptance with what unites us rather than what divides us :

    https://democracyproject.nz/2022/05/...thing-to-fear/

    Simplistically, Ardern & the Maori cabal are fearful that their separatism agenda cannot stand the scrutiny of open debate - which is why they have been doing it by stealth.


    According to former National party Minister Chris Finlayson, you guys are just "the sour right behind the racist resentful rhetoric", and the way to deal with you is just to "leave those losers behind and move on."

    What would you say to that!

    Just to be clear, I wouldn't say that, however,
    I don't really get what you guys are so fearful of around co-governance/partnership, it's not a new concept & there are already examples of it working well.
    In reality National is just as on board with this as Labour. Luxon won't be able to pretend to sit on the fence on this for much longer.


    Anyway for anyone interested in some educated informed discussion around this subject, here's a link,

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/programmes/the...get-on-with-it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Skies View Post
    According to former National party Minister Chris Finlayson, you guys are just "the sour right behind the racist resentful rhetoric", and the way to deal with you is just to "leave those losers behind and move on."

    What would you say to that!

    Just to be clear, I wouldn't say that, however,
    I don't really get what you guys are so fearful of around co-governance/partnership, it's not a new concept & there are already examples of it working well.
    In reality National is just as on board with this as Labour. Luxon won't be able to pretend to sit on the fence on this for much longer.


    Anyway for anyone interested in some educated informed discussion around this subject, here's a link,

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/programmes/the...get-on-with-it
    Chris can say whatever he wants - does not change the fact that this Ardern government is the most devious and deceptive government NZ has ever had. NZers deserve answers to their concerns and this government’s reply is that any challenges are racist so will not be allowed.

    Exactly the same stance taken by Poto Williams that she is doing such a great job with her police portfolio that it is sexist to question her.

    Kris Faafoi at least had the decency to admit he could not rise up to the challenge of debating the Hate Speech by going to ground.

    This government’s refusal to answer basic questions on 3 Waters about the implications co-governance of 3 Waters speaks volume about its ulterior and devious intentions.

    Does not work with those of us who refuse to be brainwashed and become sheep.
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    NZers having to work 10 more days to pay for the wasteful spend & tax policies of Ardern & her nincompoops.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/128...ting-firm-says

    Be kind she says - to her prolific wasteful spending.
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    50,000 women on the mammogram backlog - with all the implications flowing from it.

    But remember that Ardern & Little said that everything is under control?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    NZers having to work 10 more days to pay for the spend & tax Ardern & her nincompoops.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/128...ting-firm-says

    Be kind she says - to her prolific wasteful spending.
    The myth we are big spenders is rather a fake and phony issue.

    Australia realised what their conservatives are up to according to recent polls but it's probably too late to fix the mess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda-NZ- View Post
    The myth we are big spenders is a fake and phony issue.

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    Hand me another Tui please https://tradingeconomics.com/new-zea...er%20of%201987.
    Last edited by iceman; 12-05-2022 at 10:45 AM.

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    It's called inflation (with pop growth on top).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    50,000 women on the mammogram backlog - with all the implications flowing from it.

    But remember that Ardern & Little said that everything is under control?
    The Titanic was under control as well, they said even God couldn't sink it.

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