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23-10-2022, 01:49 PM
#841
Originally Posted by Baa_Baa
Trying out Sharesights new 'Share Checker' performance of $10,000 invested - up to 20 years of data, total returns
At closing price 21/10/2022, if you had invested $10,000 on ...
Company |
Invested Date |
Capital Gain |
Dividends |
Total Return |
RYM |
22/10/2002 |
$238,525 |
$66,484 |
$305,010 |
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per annum
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119.18% |
33.22% |
152.40% |
SUM |
1/11/2011 |
$58,014 |
$7,283 |
$65,297 |
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per annum
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52.82% |
6.63% |
59.45% |
ARV |
18/12/2014 |
$3,789 |
$4,488 |
$8,277 |
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per annum
|
4.83% |
5.72% |
10.54% |
OCA |
5/05/2017 |
$633 |
$2620 |
$3253 |
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per annum
|
1.16% |
4.79% |
5.95% |
What's the lesson here? Time in the market?
That someone's maths is well off.
Assuming the capital + dividend amounts ARE correct then the per annum for RYM is 18.8%.
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23-10-2022, 01:57 PM
#842
Originally Posted by Snow Leopard
That someone's maths is well off.
Assuming the capital + dividend amounts ARE correct then the per annum for RYM is 18.8%.
They have two options, 'percent simple' and 'percent compounded'. I used %simple. You're right with %compounded. What's the difference for a non-maths expert?
%compounded
Attachment 14259
%simple
Attachment 14260
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23-10-2022, 02:49 PM
#843
time in the market is the maybe the best game baabaa posed
The $10,000 invested in OCA at the IPO will be $315,000 in 2037 if it performs as well as RYM over 20 years
That's a 24% annual return from where it is at the moment
Sorry baabaa I don't think you little exercise really showed that
Last edited by winner69; 23-10-2022 at 02:51 PM.
“ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”
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23-10-2022, 06:03 PM
#844
Originally Posted by Baa_Baa
They have two options, 'percent simple' and 'percent compounded'. I used %simple. You're right with %compounded. What's the difference for a non-maths expert?
%compounded
Attachment 14259
%simple
Attachment 14260
I would suggest that 'simple' growth/return figures are only useful for short terms of less than one year.
F'rinstance something I hold on the ASX rose 69% in two days whilst I sat in a tree house and photgraphed Proboscis Monkeys.
To annualise that would give a percentage that was:
a/ ludicrous
b/ unsustainable.
But the RYM 152% pa return actually tells you NOTHING, even standing alone. You do not consistently or even on average achieve that return per year.
SUM 'only' manages a simple return of 59% per annum on that sheet. SO, is it only 1/3rd (ish) as good as RYM?
No.
The timescales for the two are very different and this gives the totally misleading numbers.
On a levelling up compound growth you get
SUM @ 20% pa
RYM @ 19% pa
which as we all know is a lot closer to what we would expect - they are very similar, long term, in performance. (Future performance may differ from reported figures etc).
PB.jpg
Proboscis Monkey from the Tree House.
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23-10-2022, 07:43 PM
#845
Originally Posted by winner69
time in the market is the maybe the best game baabaa posed
The $10,000 invested in OCA at the IPO will be $315,000 in 2037 if it performs as well as RYM over 20 years
That's a 24% annual return from where it is at the moment
Sorry baabaa I don't think you little exercise really showed that
Hope so. I’ll be a multi millionaire
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23-10-2022, 11:18 PM
#846
Originally Posted by Snow Leopard
...
PB.jpg
Proboscis Monkey from the Tree House.
Are they the monkeys that are supposed to look like sunburnt dutchmen?
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24-10-2022, 12:07 AM
#847
Originally Posted by Bjauck
Are they the monkeys that are supposed to look like sunburnt dutchmen?
Yes. In Indonesia they are known as 'Orang Belanda' [Dutchmen] because of their red faces and big noses.
The Dutch were the colonial occupiers of Indonesia.
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24-10-2022, 08:52 AM
#848
Originally Posted by Snow Leopard
Yes. In Indonesia they are known as 'Orang Belanda' [Dutchmen] because of their red faces and big noses.
The Dutch were the colonial occupiers of Indonesia.
The Brits were lucky they arrived in Borneo later!
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24-10-2022, 09:30 AM
#849
....DELETED .... might repost later
Last edited by winner69; 24-10-2022 at 09:31 AM.
“ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”
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24-10-2022, 09:33 AM
#850
Just as you may, following the down-rampers
... then following the rampers who have been already been seduced means you'll often end up in the crap.
Last edited by justakiwi; 24-10-2022 at 09:36 AM.
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