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    Default Buffett Test 1 FY2017: Top Three Position in Chosen Market

    Quote Originally Posted by Snoopy View Post
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    Skyline Enterprises mission statement is to provide world class leisure and enertainment experiences that appeal to a wide range of guests that are positioned as quality products command a premium price and provide a high return on investment for our shareholders.

    Gondola Operations: External Turnover $131.4m (includes $15.2m from Singapore and $5.7m from other overseas)

    Skyline Enterprises was formed by a group of Queenstown tourism business enthusiasts. They were driving tourists up a rough metal road in a VW Combi to ‘Bob’s Peak’, to enjoy a mountain vista of Queenstown township and the Remarkables Mountain range over a cup of tea. There had to be a better way. And following a 1966 capital raising, the original ‘Skyline Gondola’ at Queenstown, opening in 1967, was the result.

    Roll forwards 50 years and ‘Gondola Queenstown’, already upgraded to four seaters (1987), is on the cusp of being upgraded again to ten seat gondola cars. ‘Gondola Rotorua’ provides a similar experience in the North Island. Both Gondolas support Luge runs. Unlike the Olympic Luge, the Skyline interpretation puts plastic karts with haul brakes on a contoured asphalt track. Thus overtaking is allowed and bottlenecks are avoided. This ‘luge technology’ incorporates Intellectual Property that has since been partnered internationally: Canada ( Mt Tremblent {2003}, Calgary Winsport Olympic Park {2013}), Singapore ( Sentosa Island {2004}), South Korea ( Tongyeong {2016) , Busan {pending 2019}). The UK and Europe are on the development horizon. Hospitality developments crown each hilltop station.

    My ‘Gondola Operations’ heading incoporates the fully owned non-Gondola domestic ‘Totally Tourism’ operations. Totally Tourism’s focus is on two major areas; South Island helicopter operations and Milford Sound (Milford Sound Flights and Mitre Peak Cruises) with the related heliski, helihike and Combo operations supporting these areas. These are iconic tourism operations in their own right.

    With world leading technology and a proven international growth path, the core business of SKE ticks the ‘significant market player’ box.

    Christchurch Casino: (External Turnover $62.030m )

    Skyline Enerprises is the only licenced casino operator in Christchurch. They have fully owned the Christchurch Casino from 24 December 2012, after buying out former partner ‘Sky City Entertainment’. Casino revenue includes the net aggregate of Casino wins and losses. The Casino includes entertainment and dining venues. Skyline also owns a 33% share of the Dunedin casino. But this is accounted for under the ‘All Other Segments’ segment. As the sole Casino licence holder in Christchurch, the significant market player box is ticked.

    Property Investment: (External Turnover $5.403m)

    The company owns Queenstown’s largest retail complex O’Connell’s Pavilion, Eichardt’s Hotel on the lakefront and the adjacent ‘New Eichardt’s Building’ offering a mix of accommodation, office, restaurant and retail spaces. Skyline is the landlord, not the operator of these properties. Prime property space is in short supply ln Queenstown and these assets are highly prized.

    (Largely) Accommodation: (External Turnover $6.797m)

    The two principal hotels/accommodation ‘owner run’ are the ‘Mercure Leisure Lodge’ in Duke Street Dunedin, and ‘Blue Peaks Apartments’ in Coronation drive in Queenstown.

    Overall View

    There is plenty of competition in the hotel/accommodation market. But all of the other business units are very strong or unique entertainment propositions.

    Conclusion: Pass Test
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    Default Buffett Test 2: FY2017: Increasing ‘eps’ Trend (one setback allowed)

    For this table the 'normalised net profit' excludes:

    a/ property revaluations,
    b/ insurance payouts ( FY2014 and FY2017)
    c/ the gains on sales of Property Plant and Equipment (FY2015) and
    d/ other non-operating adjustments such as exchange rate gains or losses.

    Year Normalised Net Profit {A} No. Shares EOFY {B} eps {A}/{B}
    FY2013 $31.245m 34.094m $0.92
    FY2014 $22.656m 34.137m $0.66
    FY2015 $34.137m 34.137m $1.02
    FY2016 $41.718m 34.137m $1.22
    FY2017 $45.799m 34.137mm $1.34

    The FY2014 result was torpedoed by my removal of a $10.934m insurance payout from the Skyline declared result. The Skyline declared result masked the decline in profit of the gondola division of which the profit dived from $22.862m to $16.959m. This decrease was related to business interruption caused the construction off new top and bottom terminals at Sentosa Singapore and construction problems of the new luge in Calgery Canada. These issues were resolved by FY2014 year end,

    Take FY2014 out and there is a very pleasant eps growth trend apparent.

    Conclusion: Pass test

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    Default Buffett Test 3 FY2017: ROE > 15% over 5 years (one setback allowed)

    Year Normalised Net Profit {A} S/h Equity EOFY {B} ROE {A}/{B}
    FY2013 $31.247m $215.925m 14.5%
    FY2014 $22.656m $243.316m 9.3%
    FY2015 $34.809m $282.854m 12.3%
    FY2016 $41.718m $321.356m 13.2%
    FY2017 $45.799m $370.666m 12.4%

    Ostensibly this looks like a clear cut fail. But wait. The asset values on the books include assets that have been revalued upwards. This increase in underlying asset value is due to the fact that this business has performed well, yet the increased valuation has cost shareholders nothing. It would be wrong to assess the return on equity when some of that equity has been created out of 'thin air'. So how much 'thin air capital' has appeared on the books since FY2013?

    Investment Property Revaluation Christchurch Casino Revaluation Since FY2013 Cumulative Revaluation
    FY2013 $0.704706m $45.127614m $45.832317m
    FY2014 $7.881456m $0m $53.713773m
    FY2015 $16.709649m $0m $70.423422m
    FY2016 $10.114310m $0m $80.537741m
    FY2017 $20.254664m $0m $100.792405m

    Next we take the ‘accumulated thin air capital’ away from the declared sharehokdes funds so that we are only considering a return on capital earned on shareholders real money

    Year Normalised Net Profit {A} S/h Equity EOFY {B} ROE {A}/{B}
    FY2013 $31.247m $170.093m 18.4%
    FY2014 $22.656m $189.603m 9.3%
    FY2015 $34.809m $212..431m 16.4%
    FY2016 $41.718m $240.819m 17.3%
    FY2017 $45.799m $269.874m 17.0%

    Suddenly the results look very different! There may be more equity revaluations prior to FY2013 that will increase the underlying ROE further. But I haven't bothered to look, because for the purpose of this exercise I don't need to. A pass is a pass.

    Conclusion: Pass Test

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    Default Buffett Test 4 FY2017: Ability to Raise Margins (3 year trend sufficient)

    Year Normalised Net Profit {A} Revenues {B}
    FY2013 $31.247m $96.862m 32.3%
    FY2014 $22.656m $150.634m 15.0%
    FY2015 $34.809m $162.945m 21.0%
    FY2016 $41.798m $180.504m 23.1%
    FY2017 $45.799m $198.309m 23.1%

    Despite the net profit margin being significantly less than five years ago, the turnaround trend over the last three years shows that margin improvement is still possible.

    Conclusion: Pass Test

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    Default Buffett Test Summary FY2017

    All four tests have been passed, so this means we can apply the Buffett growth model with some confidence. There is one more hurdle to pass before we do that though. It is possible for a company to produce very high Return on Equity figures by borrowing to the hilt. This would be an unacceptable risk in this investment context. So time to evaluate the debt profile of SKE

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    Default MDRT check: FY2017 Perspective

    The question I wish to pose is this. If SKE wanted to direct all of their underlying earnings into paying off debt, how long would that take?

    Bank Debt $28m {A}
    Underlying Net Profit After Tax $45.799m / year {B}
    Minimum Debt Repayment Time 0.61 years {A}/{B}

    Being able to pay off all your company debt within 8 months is an enviable position to be in. So we can now proceed to the 'Buffett Growth Model' and see what kind of numbers pop out. Don't take this post as an endorsement to buy SKE yet though. All I have looked at so far is what you get, and what you get looks very good. From an investment perspective though, the most critical thing is what you pay. And I haven't made any assessment at all about market value yet. Paying too much for something good is not good investment practice. So how much would be too much to pay for SKE? Let's see.

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    Hi Snoopy,
    Unfortunately for your SKC investment Mrs Beagle needs no help from me in making sure she gets her snout into a very fulsome array of dishes at the Fortuna Buffet. I am not too sure the hound house with our $27.90 x 2 contribution for the festive season banquet lunch contributed anything or was indeed a possible negative contribution towards your next sin stock dividend feed, however I am pretty sure they made a profit on the carparking so all is well

    No need to delve too deep into is this value question in my opinion, see post #61 and others. Trading on ostensibly the same PE as THL but whilst THL's outlook and long term profit growth looks robust, to this hound this extract from the 2017 annual report looks suspiciously like a profit warning that any astute food loving beagle should be very wary of.
    Looking Forward We need to be mindful the next five years may not mirror the past five. During this period, it is anticipated the Skyline Queenstown Development and several other major projects will impact Skyline Enterprises trading profit. The capital cost of the Skyline Queenstown project and disruption during construction to the business should not be underestimated. This project will provide future capacity and maintain long term profitability of our flagship business. During this five year period the downside will be offset to some degree by additional earnings as International Luge projects come onstream.
    Comparing that warning with THL's long term profit growth on the face of it, at least to this hounds keen nose, smells like the difference between chalk and cheese.
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    Default Buffett Growth Model FY2017 perspective: the data....

    Time to apply the Buffett growth model. The key pieces of data are:

    1/ The business cycle return on shareholder equity,

    FY2013 FY2014 FY2015 FY2016 FY2017 Average
    ROE 14.5% 9.3% 12.3% 13.0% 12.4% 12.3%

    We use this figure to work out the projected earnings from the start of the financial year shareholder equity.




    2/ The proportion of equity retained each year to grow the business.

    FY2013 FY2014 FY2015 FY2016 FY2017 Average
    dps/eps 35% 56% 36% 34% 41% 40.4%

    We use this figure to derive: (a) the proportion of earnings retained for future growth and (b) paid out as dividends.




    3/ The multiple the market has applied to future earnings.

    FY2013 FY2014 FY2015 FY2016 FY2017 Average
    Share Price @ 31st March {A} $8.45 $10.80 $12.75 $17.10 $20.55 NM
    eps {B} $0.92 $0.66 $1.02 $1.22 $1.34 NM
    PE Multiple @ 31st March {A}/{B} 9.2 16.4 12.5 14.0 15.3 13.4

    We use this figure to determine the value of the company in ten years time, based on teh expected earnings in ten years time.



    Now we have the key pieces of data, we can proceed to create the earnings projection spreadsheet

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    Default Buffett Growth Model FY2017 perspective: the calculation

    Now we have the key pieces of data, we can proceed to create the earninhgs projection spreadsheet

    Year Equity SOFY Earnings Dividend Paid Retained for Reinvestment
    2018 $10.86 $1.34 $0.54 $0.80
    2019 $11.66 $1.43 $0.58 $0.85
    2020 $12.51 $1.54 $0.62 $0.92
    2021 $13.43 $1.65 $0.67 $0.98
    2022 $14.41 $1.77 $0.72 $1.06
    2023 $15.47 $1.90 $0.77 $1.13
    2024 $16.60 $2.04 $0.83 $1.22
    2025 $17.82 $2.19 $0.89 $1.31
    2026 $19.13 $2.35 $0.95 $1.40
    2027 $20.53 $2.52 $1.02 $1.50
    2028 $22.03 $2.71
    Ten Year Dividend Total $7.57

    We now answer the question: What return can we expect, compounding annually for ten years, if we buy shares in Skyline at $24.60 today?

    p(1+i)^10=(13.4*2.71 + 7.57), p= $24.60 (today's share price)

    <=> (1+i)=[(13.4*2.71 + 7.57)/24.60]^0.1

    => i = 5.96%

    So the net average compounding return we can expect by investing in Skyline today at $24.60 over ten years is 6% per year. With tax at 30% this is equivalent to a gross return average of 8.5%. Not bad, but given the development risk ahead, not a good enough return for me. Warren Buffett looks for a 15% compounding return. What share price would he have to buy at to get this?

    Buffett Price

    p(1.15)^10=(13.4*2.71 + 7.57) => p= $10.85

    If the share price ever got down to $10.85, I would be backing up the truck myself. But such a low share price in the future seems very unlikely. Considering the quality of the underlying assets I would consider a 12% compounding return over 10 years acceptable. What purchase share price does that imply?

    Snoopy Growth Price

    p(1.12)^10=(13.4*2.71 + 7.57) => p=$14.13

    What we have here are some price points at which the purchase of Skyline Enterprises shares looks good depending on what return you the investor sees as acceptable. For me a 6% net return is not high enough. SKE is a fantastic company. But it is very fully priced by Mr Market when stacked up against historical metrics. I would not recommend buying any at $24.60. But I do recommend watching and waiting for a better entry price!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beagle View Post
    No need to delve too deep into is this value question in my opinion, see post #61 and others. Trading on ostensibly the same PE as THL but whilst THL's outlook and long term profit growth looks robust, to this hound this extract from the 2017 annual report looks suspiciously like a profit warning that any astute food loving beagle should be very wary of.

    Comparing that warning with THL's long term profit growth on the face of it, at least to this hounds keen nose, smells like the difference between chalk and cheese.
    I hear the 'warning' Beagle. But I also recognise that good businesses that operate flagship tourist sites do need to be able to spend before they can earn. So I still have a positive 'spin' on the site reinvestment proposals.

    Like you I was researching SKE as a 'measuring stick', but putting it up against that other great tourism operation: SKC. SKC, like SKE are also in the midst of a large capital spend. But SKC Auckland, and the convention centre, will be fully on line soon. Furthermore I am happy with my projected SKC gross return of 6.5% (My valuation 'Capitalised Dividend valuation: FY2018 NZ Perspective' SKC thread post 568). The other advantage of SKC is that you don't need $100k of capital to get a starter position!

    Nevertheless I would be keen to join the SKE club if I can get in at the right price. It sounds 'vulture like' but I think now is the time to watch and wait and be ready to pick up some SKE scraps should things go wrong!

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