Labour / NZ First Government

[winner69]

Is Phil’s housing fix starting to unravel as those he trying to help what be able to afford the $600,000 houses

Phil needs to learn that to solve his (perceived) problem the state needs to become the ‘landlord’ and provide ‘affordable rentals’

Go for it Phil

[minimoke]

Is Phil’s housing fix starting to unravel as those he trying to help what be able to afford the $600,000 houses

Phil needs to learn that to solve his (perceived) problem the state needs to become the ‘landlord’ and provide ‘affordable rentals’

Go for it Phil

I'm still staggered that $600,000 and $140,000 family income is the new standard for an affordable first house. I would have thought a target should be closer to $300,000 and $65,000 in income.

Time for Govt to incentivise old folks to move from their house into a SUM or RYM village

[fungus pudding]

I'm still staggered that $600,000 and $140,000 family income is the new standard for an affordable first house. I would have thought a target should be closer to $300,000 and $65,000 in income.

Time for Govt to incentivise old folks to move from their house into a SUM or RYM village

Or mix some birth control substance in with the flouride in the water. When I bought my first house the world population was under 4 billion. It's now over 7 billion. Sorta plays havoc with land values in cities.

[elZorro]

Fascinating day tomorrow, when National decides on a new leader (and probably co-leader).

No-one seems certain of the result.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/pol...eadership-race

If Collins, the party favourite, is judged to be too polarising, that suggests Bridges or Adams, and Bridges with the kiwi vernacular and Paula Bennett as a possible deputy, well that's a pretty average offering. No rush, they'll be out in the cold for a while anyway

[iceman]

Fascinating day tomorrow, when National decides on a new leader (and probably co-leader).

No-one seems certain of the result.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/pol...eadership-race

If Collins, the party favourite, is judged to be too polarising, that suggests Bridges or Adams, and Bridges with the kiwi vernacular and Paula Bennett as a possible deputy, well that's a pretty average offering. No rush, they'll be out in the cold for a while anyway

You seem very hung up on Collins EZ. When you say ¨party´s favourite", do you mean the Labour Party ? Can´t be National as you also say noone seems certain of the result so nobody can really be the favourite. Whil I would not support Collins for National Party leadership, she may well have the potential to tear the strips off the PM in debates so you should be concerned if she becomes leader. Fortunately, there are no Union or other groups that decide this vote. The MPs choose their leader as it should be.

[fungus pudding]

Fascinating day tomorrow, when National decides on a new leader (and probably co-leader).

No-one seems certain of the result.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/pol...eadership-race

If Collins, the party favourite, is judged to be too polarising, that suggests Bridges or Adams, and Bridges with the kiwi vernacular and Paula Bennett as a possible deputy, well that's a pretty average offering. No rush, they'll be out in the cold for a while anyway

Adams and Mitchell would be good and popular with voters.

[macduffy]

Fascinating day tomorrow, when National decides on a new leader (and probably co-leader).

No-one seems certain of the result.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/pol...eadership-race

If Collins, the party favourite, is judged to be too polarising, that suggests Bridges or Adams, and Bridges with the kiwi vernacular and Paula Bennett as a possible deputy, well that's a pretty average offering. No rush, they'll be out in the cold for a while anyway

No, it won't be a case of co-leaders, eZ. Another party, does this - doesn't seem to work too well!

[elZorro]

No, it won't be a case of co-leaders, eZ. Another party, does this - doesn't seem to work too well!

My mistake, I meant deputy leader. Some on here are happy to point out that the MPs choose their own leader in the National Party. Not super democratic is it? Especially when their early voting intentions could partly be driven by what they are likely to be offered in the new lineup. Who would know? The electorate LECs and party faithful can lobby all they want, they actually have no say.

Looks like Simon Bridges nearly has the numbers already.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/pol...ect-new-leader

A bit of comedy with Simon Bridges.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/bay-of-ple...ectid=11905515

[macduffy]

Some on here are happy to point out that the MPs choose their own leader in the National Party. Not super democratic is it?

Really? The leader is there to lead the party, as represented by it's MP's. Doesn't work to have a leader that the MP's don't have confidence in - as demonstrated by the Labour party last year!

[BlackPeter]

Yikes. Taxcinda strikes.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/n...ectid=12002635

LOL - love it! The faster the lefties screw the economy the faster they will go. Just imagine the impact on retirement funds and similar - Labour is killing it!