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    Great speech and diplomacy from our leader.


    Watch: PM tackles Trump, climate change in UN speech

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    Great speech and diplomacy from our leader.


    Watch: PM tackles Trump, climate change in UN speech
    Yes, full marks! It won't cut any ice with You Know Who - but it's important to stand up and say it!

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    Absolutely!. And great promotion for NZ (Air NZ direct flights from Chicago), Hobbiton etc and general feel warmth and good humour all round .


    Watch: Ardern cracks jokes on The Late Show

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPeter View Post
    Short thinking. Vivitors don't care if they pick some other nice spot in teh world where they are more welcome. Our so called hospitality (or was it hostility?) industry might care if the visitors stop.

    And yes, its not just the levvy. It is hostility in the media when a tourist makeing a driving mistake is beaten up without end while nobody cares if drunken Kiwi teens are killing themselves and others on our roads. It is the animosity against foreign house buyers. Of course do people feel less welcome (including the people who are lawfully here, but might just have a different accent or a non-kaukasian look). People feel less welcome. It is the hostility against immigrants - and against their families - they are not even allowed anymore to bring e.g. their old parents to NZ. All less reasons to visit NZ, and the current populist and racist government is doing nothing to improve but much to deteriorate the situation.
    An early morning rant worthy of Donald. If a $35 dollar levy on tourists causes you so much angst I suggest you lighten up for you healths sake.
    Tourism has many benefits but there are costs and infrastructure is not keeping up with growth of tourism. If a levy sends a few tourists to another country tough.
    Why should NZ offer residence to parents of immigrants who have spent their productive working life in another country. ? The health system has enough problems without more elderly people wishing to retire to quiet, peacefull NZ Just as we could probably do with out wealthy foreigners buying "bolt holes" just in case.
    Some tourist drivers do cause mayhem on the roads and sometimes a "driving mistake" has serious consequences. Of course drunken teen age drivers do not cause concern ? Just as immigrants and other visitors are all treated with hostillity, and the coalition Govt. is racist and your favourite word populist?
    All governments are populist in that they cater to their supporters which may or may not be of benefit to all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by westerly View Post
    An early morning rant worthy of Donald. If a $35 dollar levy on tourists causes you so much angst I suggest you lighten up for you healths sake.
    Tourism has many benefits but there are costs and infrastructure is not keeping up with growth of tourism. If a levy sends a few tourists to another country tough.
    Why should NZ offer residence to parents of immigrants who have spent their productive working life in another country. ? The health system has enough problems without more elderly people wishing to retire to quiet, peacefull NZ Just as we could probably do with out wealthy foreigners buying "bolt holes" just in case.
    Some tourist drivers do cause mayhem on the roads and sometimes a "driving mistake" has serious consequences. Of course drunken teen age drivers do not cause concern ? Just as immigrants and other visitors are all treated with hostillity, and the coalition Govt. is racist and your favourite word populist?
    All governments are populist in that they cater to their supporters which may or may not be of benefit to all.

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    I can hardly believe it but AMEN to nearly all of the above. Well said westerly. $35 is indeed F all of F all for tourists and its not going to bugger up the industry. It may even keep some of the undesirable skank packers out as they are most $ conscious. And I concur with the health system and too many immigrants getting easy access after not long enough in the country. Its ridiculous that we cater to so many immigrant's parents who have just turned up here on a family connection and then give them full public health service, usually in the time when they use it most and it costs most after not having provided for anything here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackcap View Post
    I can hardly believe it but AMEN to nearly all of the above. Well said westerly. $35 is indeed F all of F all for tourists and its not going to bugger up the industry. It may even keep some of the undesirable skank packers out as they are most $ conscious. And I concur with the health system and too many immigrants getting easy access after not long enough in the country. Its ridiculous that we cater to so many immigrant's parents who have just turned up here on a family connection and then give them full public health service, usually in the time when they use it most and it costs most after not having provided for anything here.
    I agree , it ignores the social contract of being a contributor to society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    Great speech and diplomacy from our leader.


    Watch: PM tackles Trump, climate change in UN speech
    Yeah, it was a good one and you can even call it, inspiring. It's just a pity that only NZ'ers watching the late news heard it and some token delegates on the floor that you can count with your fingers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPeter View Post
    Short thinking. Vivitors don't care if they pick some other nice spot in teh world where they are more welcome.
    I agree - there are plenty of other ways to recoup infrastructure and National Park maintenance costs - other than a slap on tourists.


    Our so called hospitality (or was it hostility?) industry might care if the visitors stop.
    Who's being hostile?


    And yes, its not just the levvy. It is hostility in the media when a tourist makeing a driving mistake is beaten up without end while nobody cares if drunken Kiwi teens are killing themselves and others on our roads.
    Of course lots of people care.


    A visitor to your home causing damage is always more memorable than if it is done by a member of your own family.


    We shouldn't expect anyone who has just completed a long haul flight to drive as well as normal, let alone when they are not used to NZ driving conditions, rules or roads. This certainly need to be looked into.




    It is the animosity against foreign house buyers. Of course do people feel less welcome (including the people who are lawfully here, but might just have a different accent or a non-kaukasian look). People feel less welcome. It is the hostility against immigrants - and against their families - they are not even allowed anymore to bring e.g. their old parents to NZ. All less reasons to visit NZ, and the current populist and racist government is doing nothing to improve but much to deteriorate the situation.

    Immigration is a bit of a diferent topic. Previous governments should have had policies that ensured the supply of affordable housing (and infrastructure) in areas where immigrants wanted to settle. Otherwise populists could find fertile ground from possible local resentment. Immigration policy needs to dovetail with housing and economic policies. What level of immigration can be harmoniously supported by our society?

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    This apparently one of the more robust business confidence surveys ...big end of town and not those testy SMEs

    NZ FIRMS MOST PESSIMISTIC IN NINE YEARS, BLAME GOVT POLICY, LABOUR COSTS


    http://www.sharechat.co.nz/article/1...bour-costshtml
    “ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    This apparently one of the more robust business confidence surveys ...big end of town and not those testy SMEs

    NZ FIRMS MOST PESSIMISTIC IN NINE YEARS, BLAME GOVT POLICY, LABOUR COSTS


    http://www.sharechat.co.nz/article/1...bour-costshtml
    Some of that will be due to the increases in Minimum Wage / Living wage which simply shifts the Working For Families burden onto the Employer.

    Then tighten up hiring options by removing 90 day trial period provisions and tightening of work visas, with no policy on getting the unemployed off the couch.

    Add to that fuel costs at record high levels - that will only increase costs across the board - including commuting costs which will put even further pressure on wages.

    Hopefully Jacinda has the ear of her comrades in China - they may be needed to help shift production from NZ to China.

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