Labour / NZ First Government

[jonu]

Just remember that it isn't Jacinda alone making all this stuff up - there is a group coming up with it.

Oh I'm well aware of that. Like I said, she is a brilliant communicator. As far as developing policy goes, she is clueless.

[Joshuatree]

"Whether you're comparing Ardern's performance against other Western leaders, or assessing her efforts using researchers' measures of leadership excellence, as a New Zealander I think there is much to be grateful for in how she is leading us through this crisis."

Im grateful .

[Joshuatree]

Observations:

So overwhelmingly effective that her Health Minister could not understand and ignored her communication!

Same sort of polling which has Trump's ratings soaring for his handling of the virus outbreak?

Thats so funny it just proves you are in an alternate world and truly divorced from reality. So big of you to be so divisive and attempting to be destructive when we need the opposite. Like you denying that you called the prop cycle wrong.
Build a bridge and get over it.

[Balance]

Thats so funny it just proves you are in an alternate world and truly divorced from reality. So big of you to be so divisive and attempting to be destructive when we need the opposite. Like you denying that you called the prop cycle wrong.
Build a bridge and get over it.

Only in your mind, JT.

Get over the fact that you cannot read what the property cycle its about.

One word - 'Kiwibuild'.

[blackcap]

Thats so funny it just proves you are in an alternate world and truly divorced from reality. So big of you to be so divisive and attempting to be destructive when we need the opposite. Like you denying that you called the prop cycle wrong.
Build a bridge and get over it.

Have you ever considered that you might be the divisive one JT? You seem to be doing a lot of projecting these days.

[nztx]

Let's see how Arden's performance pans out with so many broken & closed businesses coming up real fast with no real substantial Govt support package so far for many SME's

We have first waves of redundancies & lay-offs coming through, but there will be a considerable number further as what Businesses that do survive start rationalising on the remnants of their trade that may be present on the other side of this

Rescue the employees but sacrifice the Businesses will have lasting effects as this goes round in spirals of further unemployment & redundancies and may be Robertson's most inept & clueless directive that he will be rembered for long after he is gone.

No amount of Govt's limited Business Loan guarantees, tinkering with depreciation (Hello - Commercial Buildings do depreciate now courtesy of C-19) allowing slightly larger assets to be written off immediately for an unmatching part year then part year, relieving businesses of a portion of their staffing costs, nor minor tinkering with tax payment levels, interest & penalty will make up for what they should really be doing now, if they expect any reasonable recovery after this without fairly significant lasting effects.

Obviously, what we are seeing is a Government lacking even the slightest hint of how business operates or the most basic of economic skills, past sailing the boat in very calm waters.

Labour appear to be continuing to make grave mistakes and appear to be floundering - focussed only on eliminating Covid, but ignoring the wider picture.

This may well come back to bite them really hard, not too far down the track, when the Voters recognise what a poor overall effort has produced and start recognising what should have occurred to better save the day, rather than too little too late, with far too many grave mistakes in the process.

And of course now, Poverty, Homeless, Kiwibuild, The Coal Mine recovery, and probably alot of their campaigning blocks are all forgotten & failed initiatives as Labor struggle to even comprehend and manage what they are dealing with and keeping things together without the sides and wheels falling off things very badly ..

[iceman]

I share your concern nztx. We do not seem to have a plan beyond the closures that are leading a total economic destruction for many and will lead to serious mental health issues down the track.
Closing of schools for example does not appear to achieve anything, possibly quite to the contracry, according to this UK study https://www.theguardian.com/educatio...onavirus-study

I think a good idea for the Government that would help SME in NZ would be to give each Kiwi an electronic gift card to use in a tourist attraction in NZ, as has been done in some places overseas. It would encourage Kiwis to travel domestically this year.

[dobby41]

I think a good idea for the Government that would help SME in NZ would be to give each Kiwi an electronic gift card to use in a tourist attraction in NZ, as has been done in some places overseas. It would encourage Kiwis to travel domestically this year.

Not all business affected are in tourism.
It will be interesting to see how you decide a business was on its knees anyway and should fail. Not all should be resusitated - some should make way for better business.
The problem will be finding a way of choosing that doesn't bind up the system with investigations.

[Balance]

Let's see how Arden's performance pans out with so many broken & closed businesses coming up real fast with no real substantial Govt support package so far for many SME's

We have first waves of redundancies & lay-offs coming through, but there will be a considerable number further as what Businesses that do survive start rationalising on the remnants of their trade that may be present on the other side of this

Rescue the employees but sacrifice the Businesses will have lasting effects as this goes round in spirals of further unemployment & redundancies and may be Robertson's most inept & clueless directive that he will be rembered for long after he is gone.

No amount of Govt's limited Business Loan guarantees, tinkering with depreciation (Hello - Commercial Buildings do depreciate now courtesy of C-19) allowing slightly larger assets to be written off immediately for an unmatching part year then part year, relieving businesses of a portion of their staffing costs, nor minor tinkering with tax payment levels, interest & penalty will make up for what they should really be doing now, if they expect any reasonable recovery after this without fairly significant lasting effects.

Obviously, what we are seeing is a Government lacking even the slightest hint of how business operates or the most basic of economic skills, past sailing the boat in very calm waters.

Labour appear to be continuing to make grave mistakes and appear to be floundering - focussed only on eliminating Covid, but ignoring the wider picture.

This may well come back to bite them really hard, not too far down the track, when the Voters recognise what a poor overall effort has produced and start recognising what should have occurred to better save the day, rather than too little too late, with far too many grave mistakes in the process.

And of course now, Poverty, Homeless, Kiwibuild, The Coal Mine recovery, and probably alot of their campaigning blocks are all forgotten & failed initiatives as Labor struggle to even comprehend and manage what they are dealing with and keeping things together without the sides and wheels falling off things very badly ..

Well articulated, nztx.

Labour/Green government's solution to any problem is to throw either taxpayers' money (in the main) at the problem, oblivious to the long term adverse outcome or put the problem to a committee or study.

The problem with this lockdown (which most of us support) is that there is no post-lockdown plan clearly articulated to give employers and businesses confidence to hold onto staff - we are going to see horrendous unemployment and business failures in the year ahead.

The wider picture is that we have an inexperienced government (good at talking the talk but not walking the talk) in charge - not a single businessperson or creator of productive jobs amongst the ministers - FRIGHTENING!

[iceman]

Not all business affected are in tourism.
It will be interesting to see how you decide a business was on its knees anyway and should fail. Not all should be resusitated - some should make way for better business.
Te problem will be finding a way of choosing that doesn't bind up the system with investigations.

Of course not all affected businesses are in tourism. But the Government is asking Kiwis to holiday in NZ and a little bit of financial encouragement may help !