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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    You sound like a permanent selfie taking selfies in the mirror, and stuff everyone else, a feudal system kinda guy.
    Not at all but I do believe in personal responsibility.

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    Yep supporting teaching them to teach their children young to grow into contributing responsible adults is the way to go a win all around. Break cycles.One cant generalise like that.

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    My wife and I waited until we were financially able to support ourselves before having kids, which we thought was common sense, but clearly it's not that common.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    Common sense, good stuff.
    "Investing in mothers, especially when they are the only adult and income earners within families, is how we address child poverty.

    "Improving the economic independence of these women brings benefits to them, their families and broader society."
    Investing in enabling women to become mothers when they are fit and able and financially secure income earners within families is how we address child poverdy"

    "Improving the decision making abilities of these women bring benefits to them, their families and broader society".

    Fixed - not that hard really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tga_trader View Post
    My wife and I waited until we were financially able to support ourselves before having kids, which we thought was common sense, but clearly it's not that common.
    How odd. That's exactly what we did as well. Maybe that thought process isnt as complex as it might first appear.

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    Great stuff . wheres the pedestal?"Clearly its not that common "?Another broad brush generalisation. So what to do.It all starts at home doesn't it. Do we want 3rd 4th 5th etc generation beneficiaries or can we give them tools , support , esteem a chance to break out of negative, worth less, unhealthy states of being and empower them and the world around them to become productive, positive , contributing people. The first three years of a childs life are critical to which type of being they will be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    The first three years of a childs life are critical to which type of being they will be.
    And a responsible parent has at least 9 months to plan and prepare for this.

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    You are talking robots there mm, we are human beings with a multitude of reasons why things happen to families , relationships, teenagers in poverty or wealth or across the board whether its ignorance, abuse or a moment of bulletproof ness which most teens experience at some point etc etc etc etc etc. Teach your children well, break cycles. To compare with your own experience is a conceit we are all unique as is the multitude of reasons people find themselves in isolated unsupported situations ..

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    The Global bull market is very mature or nearing an end of a very long fantastic cycle for many including us. Trade wars, debt (USA ,China) etc. Commodities are dropping in value, retailers are being usurped by online sales etc. Generally global business sentiment is not good atp in the cycle. Lets be parochial and blame the NZ Govt for whats causing this drop in confidence and also for the various sharemarkets around the world many which are just off all time highs, yep the NZ Labour govt are responsible for the beginning of the end of a golden period, thinking globally, acting locally., its all their fault! lolololololololol

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    JT

    The price of property in Sydney, London, Vancouver and many other cities have gone through the roof and the left blame the National Government. It is all their fault is the cry.

    I can only be thankful that National was in power those first three years after Labour were booted out. Imagine Labour handling the GFC. It doesn't bear thinking about.

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