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 Originally Posted by Absolute144
Well, Bill didnt offer hard enough. I'd have much rather seen a two party coalition than this 3 headed monster.
I disagree. National had some lines in the sand that they were not willing to cross and totally reasonably stuck to their guns on issues Jacinda rolled over on. She and Labour were desperate and ready to give away just about anything Winston wanted, which included treating The Greens like a door mat which they deserve and seem to like !
National did the right thing. It is better to regroup in a strong parliamentary opposition and watch this mess unfold.
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Originally Posted by iceman
I disagree. National had some lines in the sand that they were not willing to cross and totally reasonably stuck to their guns on issues Jacinda rolled over on. She and Labour were desperate and ready to give away just about anything Winston wanted, which included treating The Greens like a door mat which they deserve and seem to like !
National did the right thing. It is better to regroup in a strong parliamentary opposition and watch this mess unfold.
+1 that iceman, nicely put.
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Originally Posted by iceman
I disagree. National had some lines in the sand that they were not willing to cross and totally reasonably stuck to their guns on issues Jacinda rolled over on. She and Labour were desperate and ready to give away just about anything Winston wanted, which included treating The Greens like a door mat which they deserve and seem to like !
National did the right thing. It is better to regroup in a strong parliamentary opposition and watch this mess unfold.
Totally agree....
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Originally Posted by iceman
I disagree. National had some lines in the sand that they were not willing to cross and totally reasonably stuck to their guns on issues Jacinda rolled over on. She and Labour were desperate and ready to give away just about anything Winston wanted, which included treating The Greens like a door mat which they deserve and seem to like !
National did the right thing. It is better to regroup in a strong parliamentary opposition and watch this mess unfold.
Exactly and it was always going happen .... I just knew once Jacinda took over the ruddless Labour ship they would have a very good chance to win under MMP system(losers group together) .... then after election night I was 90% sure of it .... Bill is no teflon "john Key " Jacinda + Greens + labour party were all extremely desperate and old Winne knew it and took full advanatge of it ...
Now just like buyers remorse ... Jacinda and here merry socialist crew will soon have to deal with the monster they have created ...the honeymoon will hit the wall during the GFC 2 2018-19
"With a good perspective on history, we can have a better understanding of the past and present, and thus a clear vision of the future." — Carlos Slim Helu
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[QUOTE=JBmurc;689730]Exactly and it was always going happen .... I just knew once Jacinda took over the ruddless Labour ship they would have a very good chance to win under MMP system(losers group together) .... then after election night I was 90% sure of it .... Bill is no teflon "john Key " Jacinda + Greens + labour party were all extremely desperate and old Winne knew it and took full advanatge of it ...
Now just like buyers remorse ... Jacinda and here merry socialist crew will soon have to deal with the monster they have created ...the honeymoon will hit the wall during the GFC 2 2018-19[/QUOte
National have a good chance of getting back
IN 2026
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Originally Posted by JBmurc
Exactly and it was always going happen .... I just knew once Jacinda took over the ruddless Labour ship they would have a very good chance to win under MMP system(losers group together) .... then after election night I was 90% sure of it .... Bill is no teflon "john Key " Jacinda + Greens + labour party were all extremely desperate and old Winne knew it and took full advanatge of it ...
Now just like buyers remorse ... Jacinda and here merry socialist crew will soon have to deal with the monster they have created ...the honeymoon will hit the wall during the GFC 2 2018-19[/QUOte
National have a good chance of getting back
IN 2026
Agree, for a 3rd term
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[QUOTE=Sgt Pepper;689735]
Originally Posted by JBmurc
Exactly and it was always going happen .... I just knew once Jacinda took over the ruddless Labour ship they would have a very good chance to win under MMP system(losers group together) .... then after election night I was 90% sure of it .... Bill is no teflon "john Key " Jacinda + Greens + labour party were all extremely desperate and old Winne knew it and took full advanatge of it ...
Now just like buyers remorse ... Jacinda and here merry socialist crew will soon have to deal with the monster they have created ...the honeymoon will hit the wall during the GFC 2 2018-19[/QUOte
National have a good chance of getting back
IN 2026
I'd say more like 2020
"With a good perspective on history, we can have a better understanding of the past and present, and thus a clear vision of the future." — Carlos Slim Helu
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Originally Posted by iceman
I disagree. National had some lines in the sand that they were not willing to cross and totally reasonably stuck to their guns on issues Jacinda rolled over on. She and Labour were desperate and ready to give away just about anything Winston wanted, which included treating The Greens like a door mat which they deserve and seem to like !
National did the right thing. It is better to regroup in a strong parliamentary opposition and watch this mess unfold.
Well said mate.
Ecclesiastes 11:2: “Divide your portion to seven, or even to eight, for you do not know what misfortune may occur on the earth.”
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Originally Posted by iceman
I disagree. National had some lines in the sand that they were not willing to cross and totally reasonably stuck to their guns on issues Jacinda rolled over on. She and Labour were desperate and ready to give away just about anything Winston wanted, which included treating The Greens like a door mat which they deserve and seem to like !
National did the right thing. It is better to regroup in a strong parliamentary opposition and watch this mess unfold.
You've forgotten, Winston Peters had taken National Ministers Paula Bennett & Anne Tolley to court for 'breaching his privacy' by secretly sharing details of his superannuation overpayment to the media ahead of the 2017 election, to undermine him.
Simon Bridges & others said they couldn't believe Winston Peters had served papers on them the day before the election but then sat there in front of them pretending it hadn't happened during negotiations. There was so much animosity between them & Bennett said it was just one example of why National never trusted Winston Peters.
However, despite them regarding him as totally untrustworthy, they were still negotiating with him to try & form the govt.
Talk about lines in the sand & National doing the right thing is completely irrelevant. Peters rejected National, not the other way around.
Peters was never going to go with National, how could he form a government with the same Ministers he was in the process of taking to court!
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