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    Interested to see ACT's David Seymour, saying they intend to repeal Labour's Anti-Hate Speech Laws which they find deeply offensive, while at the same time over in the US, University of Pennsylvania President Liz Magil has just been forced to resign over her disastrous testimony to Congress, struggling to say whether calls for genocide against Jews would constitute bullying or harassment under the universities code of conduct.

    There have also been calls for Harvard President Claudine Gay & MIT President Sally Kornbruth to resign over not explicitly saying calls for genocide against Jews would constitute harassment or bullying, but depending on the circumstances, & context. Wealthy donors to all these universities have threatened to withdraw funding.

    Hard to reconcile free speech & everyone should be allowed to express their opinions (according to ACT election policy) with such hateful rhetoric.

    This govt might just be opening a Pandora's box by repealing our Anti-Hate speech legislation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Mike Hosking said the Government has had a good first week

    Yes nothing to see here, move along...

    except for,

    a new Cabinet Minister (Brooke van Veldon) publicly admonished by the Commissioner for the Environment for misquoting him
    not 1 but 2 embarrassing Cabinet leaks in a week,
    a significant nationwide protest over anger at the govt stance on Maori, 'Maori Action Day,' a portent of things to come.
    The Maori King issuing a Royal Proclamation for a nation wide hui, uniting Maori voices in opposition to the govt's policies undoing decades of justice for Maori.
    Tongan Community Leaders in Auckland saying they are saddened & appalled by the govt's anti-Maori policies and the Pacifica community stand with Maori
    Strain between National's new Maori MP, Tama Potaka & Chris Luxon over his own govt's policies, saying there have been "robust discussions"
    An open letter signed by 105 Health organisations to Chris Luxon strongly condemming the govt intention to repeal Smokefree 2025
    Around the world, disbelief, shock & condemnation of the govt's intension to ignore overwhelming Public Health & scientific evidence & repeal Smokefree 2025, in order to pay for tax cuts.
    Anger from Environmental Groups at the govt intention to repeal the ban on offshore drilling for oil & gas,
    Nicola Willis becoming increasingly anxious as the hard cold reality of being in govt & keeping all 3 Parties election promises with the demands for govt support coming from everywhere, while also giving tax cuts, & maintaining a Public Service capable of delivering for the govt.
    NZ's international reputation tarnished as an outlier by not joining 128 other nations & signing the WHO updates & amendments necessary due to the global Covid Pandemic, as a result of NZF's putting its own conspiracy voters support ahead of NZ's interests.
    International coverage of our Deputy PM accusing our main media, TV1 & RNZ among others of accepting bribes from the previous govt, again putting the interests of NZF's conspiracy voters ahead of the countries best interests & putting Chris Luxon in a difficult position.

    And that's a good week folks.
    Chris Luxon looks comfortable in his new role but he's got a heck of a job ahead of him managing this coalition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Skies View Post
    Yes nothing to see here, move along...

    except for,

    a new Cabinet Minister (Brooke van Veldon) publicly admonished by the Commissioner for the Environment for misquoting him
    not 1 but 2 embarrassing Cabinet leaks in a week,
    a significant nationwide protest over anger at the govt stance on Maori, 'Maori Action Day,' a portent of things to come.
    The Maori King issuing a Royal Proclamation for a nation wide hui, uniting Maori voices in opposition to the govt's policies undoing decades of justice for Maori.
    Tongan Community Leaders in Auckland saying they are saddened & appalled by the govt's anti-Maori policies and the Pacifica community stand with Maori
    Strain between National's new Maori MP, Tama Potaka & Chris Luxon over his own govt's policies, saying there have been "robust discussions"
    An open letter signed by 105 Health organisations to Chris Luxon strongly condemming the govt intention to repeal Smokefree 2025
    Around the world, disbelief, shock & condemnation of the govt's intension to ignore overwhelming Public Health & scientific evidence & repeal Smokefree 2025, in order to pay for tax cuts.
    Anger from Environmental Groups at the govt intention to repeal the ban on offshore drilling for oil & gas,
    Nicola Willis becoming increasingly anxious as the hard cold reality of being in govt & keeping all 3 Parties election promises with the demands for govt support coming from everywhere, while also giving tax cuts, & maintaining a Public Service capable of delivering for the govt.
    NZ's international reputation tarnished as an outlier by not joining 128 other nations & signing the WHO updates & amendments necessary due to the global Covid Pandemic, as a result of NZF's putting its own conspiracy voters support ahead of NZ's interests.
    International coverage of our Deputy PM accusing our main media, TV1 & RNZ among others of accepting bribes from the previous govt, again putting the interests of NZF's conspiracy voters ahead of the countries best interests & putting Chris Luxon in a difficult position.

    And that's a good week folks.
    Chris Luxon looks comfortable in his new role but he's got a heck of a job ahead of him managing this coalition.
    I think you will find they are public servant leaks, not cabinet leaks. You are just being disingeneous.

    The anger from environmental groups, well that is just the cherry on the cake. Let them rage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Skies View Post
    Yes nothing to see here, move along...

    except for,

    a new Cabinet Minister (Brooke van Veldon) publicly admonished by the Commissioner for the Environment for misquoting him
    not 1 but 2 embarrassing Cabinet leaks in a week,
    a significant nationwide protest over anger at the govt stance on Maori, 'Maori Action Day,' a portent of things to come.
    The Maori King issuing a Royal Proclamation for a nation wide hui, uniting Maori voices in opposition to the govt's policies undoing decades of justice for Maori.
    Tongan Community Leaders in Auckland saying they are saddened & appalled by the govt's anti-Maori policies and the Pacifica community stand with Maori
    Strain between National's new Maori MP, Tama Potaka & Chris Luxon over his own govt's policies, saying there have been "robust discussions"
    An open letter signed by 105 Health organisations to Chris Luxon strongly condemming the govt intention to repeal Smokefree 2025
    Around the world, disbelief, shock & condemnation of the govt's intension to ignore overwhelming Public Health & scientific evidence & repeal Smokefree 2025, in order to pay for tax cuts.
    Anger from Environmental Groups at the govt intention to repeal the ban on offshore drilling for oil & gas,
    Nicola Willis becoming increasingly anxious as the hard cold reality of being in govt & keeping all 3 Parties election promises with the demands for govt support coming from everywhere, while also giving tax cuts, & maintaining a Public Service capable of delivering for the govt.
    NZ's international reputation tarnished as an outlier by not joining 128 other nations & signing the WHO updates & amendments necessary due to the global Covid Pandemic, as a result of NZF's putting its own conspiracy voters support ahead of NZ's interests.
    International coverage of our Deputy PM accusing our main media, TV1 & RNZ among others of accepting bribes from the previous govt, again putting the interests of NZF's conspiracy voters ahead of the countries best interests & putting Chris Luxon in a difficult position.

    And that's a good week folks.
    Chris Luxon looks comfortable in his new role but he's got a heck of a job ahead of him managing this coalition.

    Anything to gloss over Labour wanting to pull a large smokescreen over the Fiscal Cliff and Economic disaster zone
    they left behind must be fair game from the left now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Skies View Post
    Interested to see ACT's David Seymour, saying they intend to repeal Labour's Anti-Hate Speech Laws which they find deeply offensive, while at the same time over in the US, University of Pennsylvania President Liz Magil has just been forced to resign over her disastrous testimony to Congress, struggling to say whether calls for genocide against Jews would constitute bullying or harassment under the universities code of conduct.

    There have also been calls for Harvard President Claudine Gay & MIT President Sally Kornbruth to resign over not explicitly saying calls for genocide against Jews would constitute harassment or bullying, but depending on the circumstances, & context. Wealthy donors to all these universities have threatened to withdraw funding.

    Hard to reconcile free speech & everyone should be allowed to express their opinions (according to ACT election policy) with such hateful rhetoric.

    This govt might just be opening a Pandora's box by repealing our Anti-Hate speech legislation.

    How did the Pandora's box that Labour left behind look ? .. empty, unfunded & near on 'on the bones of it's ass'
    while Robbo had gone silent on the rapidly becoming obvious following things falling apart badly in past 12 months

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackcap View Post
    I think you will find they are public servant leaks, not cabinet leaks. You are just being disingeneous.

    The anger from environmental groups, well that is just the cherry on the cake. Let them rage.
    Wasn't being disingenuous Blackcap, the term is 'Cabinet Leaks' regardless of who leaked or publishes them, because they are leaks of confidential Cabinet papers, documents or discussions.
    Leaks happen but extremely unusual in first week & not once but twice which would have rocked the govt.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politi...IDVTYC63UYEIE/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Skies View Post
    Wasn't being disingenuous Blackcap, the term is 'Cabinet Leaks' regardless of who leaked or publishes them, because they are leaks of confidential Cabinet papers, documents or discussions.
    Leaks happen but extremely unusual in first week & not once but twice which would have rocked the govt.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politi...IDVTYC63UYEIE/
    Rocked the government? Rocking and rolling more like.

    Shows how corrupted and entitled the civil service had become under Ardern, Hipkins and the useless Labour government.

    Good news is that many of them are going to be out of their cushy jobs soon.

    Most satisfying!

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    Good riddance.

    How has the health system improve with his presence in the last 6 years? Gone backwards big time no thanks to do-gooders like him.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/sir-co...NLU26SUACOVV4/

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    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-67574419
    Looks like a win/ win to this divisive govt but a big loss in reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    Good riddance.

    How has the health system improve with his presence in the last 6 years? Gone backwards big time no thanks to do-gooders like him.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/sir-co...NLU26SUACOVV4/
    It is interesting as the main focus on helping Maori is to let them make decisions themselves, that better themselves. I am married to a Maori lady and the amount of victim mentality coming from her side of the family is astounding. I try to bridge the gap and don't begrudge them as they are family, but hitting my head against a brick wall only leaves me with the headache. I preach by the OARBED model. I keep saying to stop being the victim and become the victor!!

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