Although I did add some flavour about public servants with no skin in the game telling us our economy is thriving in lockdown.
Still, I must do better. The need to explain means I have failed!
Well there is people who follow the science & others who are blinkered. To think that the impact of humankind is not impacting the climate incrementally is lunacy.
[QUOTE=Daytr;1017175]Well there is people who follow the science & others who are blinkered. To think that the impact of humankind is not impacting the climate incrementally is lunacy.[/QUOTE
There's a theory that whenever something requires a consensus its because it lacks factual substance. Who's blinkered? Are carbon levels any higher than a historical average? Do you know how they can measure levels from fossils? It is positively fascinating. Not enough carbon and plants become vulnerable to drought.
Well there is people who follow the science & others who are blinkered. To think that the impact of humankind is not impacting the climate incrementally is lunacy.
Do we as humans impact the climate through greenhouse gas emissions? Probably. But the question should be does the cost of regulation outweigh the gain of slightly less emissions? That is a question that seems to never be asked by anyone and not one that I know the answer to.
Well there is people who follow the science & others who are blinkered. To think that the impact of humankind is not impacting the climate incrementally is lunacy.[/QUOTE
There's a theory that whenever something requires a consensus its because it lacks factual substance. Who's blinkered? Are carbon levels any higher than a historical average? Do you know how they can measure levels from fossils? It is positively fascinating. Not enough carbon and plants become vulnerable to drought.
Carbon levels can't be looked at in isolated. Human activity has also decimated what absorbs carbon including the felling of something like 70% of the native forests and the health of the ocean. What the world could previously absorb in regards CO2e levels is not measure of what can be absorbed now or in the future.
Do we as humans impact the climate through greenhouse gas emissions? Probably. But the question should be does the cost of regulation outweigh the gain of slightly less emissions? That is a question that seems to never be asked by anyone and not one that I know the answer to.
We haven't seen the gigantic cost yet, that is to come. Although insurance premiums would suggest we are seeing the very start of some of that cost
@valuenz. No, we'll make ourselves broke for no good reason.
The question you raise is asked and answered comprehensively in two books I read recently (listened to actually).
Epstein's Fossil Future and Apocalypse Never by Shellenberger.
Now, a word of warning: these books will take you away from the alarmist coverage of the msm and present rational, cogent arguments. It will be a jarring and unsettling experience for most but worth it.
Climate change denial sr. That's pretty brave in today's world. Make no mistake about it change has been massive. The oceans have risen over 400ft already.
Correct. The Fiords in Fiordland were carved out by ice over may cycles. The last one had the glaciers hitting the Tasman around 9000 years ago.
Those god damned cave men.
Climate change is massive, over 3 or 400,000 years you will see it all.
Very recently the Northern Ice cap went as far south as New York.
But we are still in an ice age now. One that began 110,000 years ago.
Well there is people who follow the science & others who are blinkered. To think that the impact of humankind is not impacting the climate incrementally is lunacy.[/QUOTE
There's a theory that whenever something requires a consensus its because it lacks factual substance. Who's blinkered? Are carbon levels any higher than a historical average? Do you know how they can measure levels from fossils? It is positively fascinating. Not enough carbon and plants become vulnerable to drought.
No, they are FAR far lower than historical average, we're in massive Co2 drought
Biggest risk by far is slipping back into a glacial period as we are in the middle of an ice age now.
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