Labour govt 2020-23

[Balance]

Waste of energy engaging with the woke brigade. If some of the lefty's here are not residing on the 9th floor they should be.

It's ok - we know they are part of Cindy's army of spin merchants (some paid by taxpayers) to try and stamp out uncomfortable truths about just how bad this government of all spin & no delivery is.

There are many reading this thread who are coming to that conclusion - when they read the rapidly unravelling spin from Cindy.

[Logen Ninefingers]

This government will and has not hesitated to use urgency to pass legislation when it suits its agenda :

https://www.newsroom.co.nz/whats-the...ing-in-a-hurry

Excerpt : " .....the passage of the Local Electoral (Māori Wards and Māori Constituencies) Amendment Bill under urgency.

The bill was referred to the select committee with just two days for the public to make their submissions, with the whole select committee process lasting six days. The usual time given to a committee to report back on a bill is about six months.

While the Government says the use of urgency is to ensure the bill passes in time for the 2022 local body election, the Opposition says the bill is being rushed through for “solely political purposes”."

Cindy's government is so blatantly racist that it priorities favors to the Maoris to secure their votes as more important than protecting NZers from terrorists. Cindy confirmed she was and is aware of the Sri Lankan terrorist, and al the spin coming out now is why it is all too difficult to take action!!!!

We now have television ads for '3 Waters' which are broadcast completely in Maori. Why(?) What is about '3 Waters' that means that it is selected for that when broadcasts about other government agencies are not?

BTW, the only time you will hear about '3 Waters' is up to the point when our deceitful government gets all of this across the line. Thereafter all you will hear about is 'Taumata Arowai' which presumably will be the 'co-governance' vehicle going forward.


https://www.taumataarowai.govt.nz/

[jonu]

We now have television ads for '3 Waters' which are broadcast completely in Maori. Why(?) What is about '3 Waters' that means that it is selected for that when broadcasts about other government agencies are not?

BTW, the only time you will hear about '3 Waters' is up to the point when our deceitful government gets all of this across the line. Thereafter all you will hear about is 'Taumata Arowai' which presumably will be the 'co-governance' vehicle going forward.


https://www.taumataarowai.govt.nz/

No mention on that website of the extra regulatory costs small suppliers are going to be lumbered with. It has got disaster written all over it. More bureaucracy and empire building will result with little to no impact on the "problem" they are trying to fix.

[westerly]

Not surprised to see such rubbish from you. One can not help but wonder whether you're a paid Labour stooge ? In one of your recent posts you said NZ has had the best response to COVID. Obviously that is just your view. My view is the opposite and I think we have badly managed the COVID response this year and we seem to have no idea how to deal with it other than continuously locking down the country. Contrary to what is being banged on about by the PM, much of the western world is far ahead of us and getting much closer to living the new normal. Just look at Europe with 70% of it's population vaccinated, Norway, Denmark, Sweden & Iceland all opening up and getting rid of most restrictions. WHat do we do ? One case and we shut down the whole country.

One can also wonder who is paying you? I do not agree with all this Govt. is doing but believe National with Judith and Act with Mr Bean would have had us in a similar or worse position than Australia.

westerly

[Bjauck]

Possibly, but more likely he arrived as the finished product.

Unfortunately he may have become radicalised in 2016 when he was in NZ, according to his family in Sri Lanka.

So it beggars belief that this person, who despite Immigration NZ advice, was able to get refugee status after his arrival on a student visa, and was then able to keep it even after authorities were well aware of his activities.

Does it indicate a broken refugee monitoring system, a broken process and a non-coping preoccupied government?

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-...sed-neighbours

[dobby41]

You're right. We haven't even had one case in the SI, yet have been shut down for 3 weeks. Are you blind ? I agreed with the original shutdown while figuring out what was going on and trying to reduce the spread, but to continue it for 3 weeks AND slowing down vaccinations, is ridiculous and shows how utterly incompetent the government is

So there shouldn't have been a lockdown at all in the South Island?
Because you knew that with all the contacts in the South Island that none would prove positive?
Today we will see if we go to a lower level at all.

Vaccinations have sped up, not slowed down.

[Logen Ninefingers]

After the latest terror attack in NZ can we now expect 'Patrick Gower: On Hate Part Two'?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertain...F524JFN3FZXSA/

Patrick Gower: On Hate's strengths lie in the incredible talent he got to speak on camera - seven people whose lives were irrevocably turned upside down by the acts of someone whose hatred seems impossible to comprehend. The human cost of white supremacy is what is mostly front and centre - as it should be for this kind of documentary to be effective.

[Logen Ninefingers]

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/cri...r-buying-knife

Supermarket terrorist made disturbing internet searches after buying knife
Edward Gay
12:12, Sep 06 2021

The Isis-inspired terrorist who stabbed six people at an Auckland supermarket searched online for “safety and security guidelines for lone wolf mujahedeen”, just days after buying a hunting knife.

The searches were revealed in a court document relating to Ahamed Aathill Mohamed Samsudeen and released on Monday.

The judgment, from Justice Geoffrey Venning, shows in 2018 Samsudeen and a friend visited Target Shooter in East Tamaki in August 2018.

He asked to look at a 25cm hunting knife displayed in a shop cabinet. Samsudeen checked the blade before placing the knife in its sheath and handing it back to the shopkeeper. He said he would buy the $39 knife but asked if it could be couriered to his home.

In the days following his purchase, Samsudeen made a series of internet searches including “Islamic state dress”; “Enemies of Allah”; “Isis allegiance”; and “Heroes of the Islamic state”.

He also searched for: “Safety and security guidelines for lone wolf mujahedeen”.

Samsudeen also looked at a number of video clips online, some of which provided “instruction on the use of the knife and footage of attempted decapitation using a hunting knife”.

[iceman]

So there shouldn't have been a lockdown at all in the South Island?
Because you knew that with all the contacts in the South Island that none would prove positive?
Today we will see if we go to a lower level at all.

Vaccinations have sped up, not slowed down.

The answer to your question is clearly worded in my post that you were responding to !!!

[dobby41]

The answer to your question is clearly worded in my post that you were responding to !!!

How many weeks should it have been for then?
You weren't clear on that.
How many weeks would you give it for positive cases to eventuate in a Level 4 environment?
After that what should the level setting be - what would you have them be?

My opinion - 2 weeks L4 was sensible.
A further week in L3 to be sure (it is much more than L4 + takeaways).
So now they should go to L2 at least.